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Matt Parker matt@mpcontracting.co.uk wrote:
On Sunday 06 November 2005 13:45, Brett Parker wrote:
Matt Parker matt@mpcontracting.co.uk wrote:
On Sunday 06 November 2005 13:29, Peter wrote:
but recent Debians are SIMPLY NOT A PROBLEM.
Peter
Well apart from the fact that they are missing large amounts of software from their standard distribution. Admittedly this software is of the non-Free variety, but in the real world it is often necessary to use such software.
Which particular non-free software are you talking about? What of that do you actually *NEED*?!
JDK 1.5 is a basic requirement for a start.
*YAWN* - because it's *SOOO* hard to do the following: apt-get install java-package <download latest jdk from sun> make-jpkg that.bin.file.you.downloaded dpkg -i the.deb.it.just.created
This is *not* a problem in debian, this is a problem with Suns licence, maybe you've never read it?
I can never use Debian due to the zealotry of it's developers in this regard.
You know, I'd rather the zealotry than being in a situation where I install something on a whim to later discover that in installing it I've broken 6 laws, killed a kitty, made someones grans ill, and broken the licencing term by not signing a goldfish. YMMV.
That just doesn't happen in the real world if you're aware of what you're installing. It's a strawman argument.
Right - so are you advocating that debian displays the licence under which the software you are installing is licenced? or what? Have you actually got a solution to the problem, or are you on a random "debian doesn't have this software and I can't be arsed to read the licence to find out why" rant? I'm yet to find anything that's under a reasonable licence that isn't already in debian, or has an ITP against it, or is just plain too damned new...
Oh, and of course, if you *really* must, there's absolutely nothing stopping you from building from source, hell, you could even generate a debian meta package that provides any dependencies that are required by other software that is in debian... maybe you're just lazy?
*GRRR*. - -- Brett Parker web: http://www.sommitrealweird.co.uk/ email: iDunno@sommitrealweird.co.uk