On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 12:30:57PM +0100, Matt Parker wrote:
On Thursday 23 Sep 2004 12:12, Andrew Savory wrote:
Hi,
On 23 Sep 2004, at 11:22, Matt Parker wrote:
Subversion is NOT ready for enterprise level networks. I don't care what has happened to your data. I'd like to see you try and go into a large enterprise and convince the IT PHB that Subversion is ready to manage all their source code. Hint : It ain't going to happen, and he/she is likely to call you a muppet for suggesting it ;-)
And the pointless mindless FUD award of the month goes to ...
You see, this is the reason why Linux itself is only being slowly accepted into the mainstream. Mindless zealotry and sarcastic attitudes. You've got to realise that the people in control are VERY conservative when it comes to their IT infrastructure - mostly due to the fact that they don't understand it. This is the way of the world unfortunately and trying to change it too quickly is not the way to go about things.
Yes there will be a time for Subversion, but not yet. The last contract I worked on was for a very large international software company (who you will have heard of) who are only just discussing moving from Visual SourceSafe to CVS. Subversion was mentioned but was quickly dismissed because it "hadn't been around long enough" and wasn't "tried and tested".
They might as well stick with sourcesafe then, at least that mightn't fuck up the archive. As for linux only now becoming mainstream, what planet are you on? There's a whole *FUCKLOAD* of linux servers out there, far out numbering Microsoft or proprietary servers. And with the likes of IBM, HP, Novell, SGI and even Sun getting in on the act, I'd say that linux is damned mainstream, my dear boy.
If *your* classification of mainstream, however, is the somewhat limited scope of desktop machines, then I fear that you are missing out on a whole world of technology.
Even the desktop area is coming into line as more and more companies realise that windows is not a requirement, step by step, maybe firstly replacing Microsoft Office with OpenOffice.org, then discovering that that wasn't bad, then gradually stepping over to other Free Software, until they've a windows machine running nothing that isn't available in a nicer form under a Free operating system.
With Gnome 2.8 and KDE 3, the developers out there devoted to making life better, and the support and backing of some of the major players, linux is very much getting in to the desktop market.
Now if someone could only convince the hardware manufacturers to be more open with specifications, the world would be a lovely place.
Now, could you please go and search the interweb, and learn about what *is* happening in the real world, rather than the misconceptions that you have now?
(Oh, and as for "mindless zealotry", erm, you're the one saying cvs is king, and that nothing else is good enough... now... that to me says that you are a mindless zealot. As for the sarcasm, to some of us it comes naturally).