On Fri, 18 Nov 2016 09:45:21 +0000 Jonathan McDowell noodles@earth.li allegedly wrote:
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 09:57:01PM +0000, Mick wrote:
Now Tor operators tend to be a suspicious, sometimes paranoid, bunch, but given that DO now has a substantial proportion of the Tor network on its ASs that suspicion may, just may, be justified. I still use DO because I get huge bandwidth for bugger all money (15 dollars a month, compared to the 12 quid I (happily) pay Bytemark for my mail/webserver). But I would not, and do not, use DO for anything I care about in personal terms (such as mail, or XMPP messaging).
I've got a single VM with DO that handles my parents' email (so running exim/dovecot/roundcube and little else). Not had any issues with them (and in terms of the traffic stuff you mentioned and I snipped I suspect that people like me hardly using their allowance are averaging out with people like you using a lot. Bandwidth in well connected datacentres has got scarily cheap). Like you my personal stuff (such as the machine which hosts this list) is with Bytemark.
I don't think that would work. Consider, I alone am using the total network allowance of about 10 other $5.00 VM users. And there are a lot of users like me who have signed up to DO simply because of the high bandwidth available. And if bandwidth is /really/ that cheap a commodity, why don't other VM providers offer it? Bytemark for example give me 1TB of transfer on my VM. They would charge me £20 for each additional 1TB of transfer. That means that the service I get at DO for $15 (about the same as the 12 quid I pay bytemark) would cost me £192 pcm (9 * £20 plus the original £12) with bytemark. Other VM suppliers are the same. I have used a lot of different suppliers over the past 8-10 years and all have used a model of charging for additional bandwidth over and above the base level. Sure, the base allowance has crept up over the years, but no-one other than DO has this weird model where they don't seem to care if you chew up a lot of bandwidth.
I would /love/ to use bytemark for all my VMs. I can't afford that.
Most importantly from my (admittedly somewhat paranoid viewpoint) the VM allows me to choose my own kernel to go with the OS of my choice. DO don't do that. You get to "choose" one of their kernels underneath your installed OS.
This has changed; when I started I was limited to the DO provided kernels, but my Debian VM with them is now using Debian provided kernels I installed - they've got a "grub" option in the web interface now which then boots a kernel from the VM image.
Ah. I hadn't spotted that option (right down at the bottom of the kernel list). Thanks. I'll give it a try.
Mick
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