MJ Ray mjr@phonecoop.coop wrote:
Brett Parker iDunno@sommitrealweird.co.uk
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Erm, but we *can't* edit the site so that it breaks, we haven't that power, or even anything approaching a good delegation scheme, all patches get sent to you, therefore you have decided to take the responsibility entirely.
You can edit the site. It's a new service and I added it, so I took responsibility for it. To be honest, I didn't see a problem with that. Spamming the list with diffs seemed inappropriate. What do you want?
No, I *can't* edit the site, I can put forward new content, in the form of a diff, that then gets processed by one seriously over-worked developer who appears to currently be taking everything in the world far too seriously...
How do you know it's a PITA for maintenance? You're not maintaining.
I've dealt with manual patches several times, dear. No, as stated previously, I have no ability to maintain it [...]
So either stick to what you do know about or ask, please.
Well, go on then, enlighten us? Tell us oh great one just what is involved... or document it somewhere and throw us a URL...
Note that the word alias was also used, but I see you didn't comment on that, interesting. So, rather than sitting in your inbox, how about actually sitting in more than one persons inbox? How about actually letting people have some responsibility?
Oh for crying out loud! What would be the benefit of an alias when only one person is doing it? Are you just posting rhetoric?
That's because currently other people either: * don't have access to the site in that way * don't feel comfortable enough to take it on because of the way that you come across as being defensive of the maintainance of the site.
Anyways - this is rapidly getting out of hand, an over defensive MJ Ray, a website that could at the minimum use a face lift.
Please, submit a new template instead of whining endlessly. It would be a useful contribution and not much karma is needed. If it's good, it will be obvious to everyone.
Fair enough, I'm sure that there's also some better designers than me on the list... I wonder why they haven't thought about doing something about it? So, on this note... if there are any designers out there that want to have a crack at doing a design for the alug website, please do. I'll throw something together when I've got a spare few hours also. Maybe we could make it in to a competition? Winner's design gets used...
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Are you honestly saying that the current situation is correct?
I know there are problems, but I think it's as good as possible with available resources.
Doesn't this lead to the question of "why are the available resources so limited"? In which case, maybe this needs to be addressed more fully...
and that you wouldn't like to see something slightly more tuned to actually being administered by more than one person?
Yes. That'll be why there are four or five who can solve the bus problem. More generally, I'm not going to Build It and They Will Come.
Right - the four or five people know how the system work, in full?
I'm not overly protective. Exasperated. Frustrated. Amazed at your repetition and brass neck. Pass the hacksaw, someone.
And there was me being amazed at your repetition and brass neck, interesting isn't it.
Friendly,