MJ Ray mjr@phonecoop.coop wrote:
Adam Bower adam@thebowery.co.uk
Just ask for help looking after the wiki then.
That's not funny. I've been asking this list periodically for help looking after the wiki, since before it appeared in December 2001.
(Thanks to everyone who has helped in the past, but people move on, some people only work on new things and more help is needed now.)
Well, if phpwiki actually had a decent revision history, it'd make it much much easier.
[...] easier than having to send patches etc. which may or may not get applied in a timely fashion. I'd given up on editing the site a *long* time ago as the current system doesn't work.
Why is it the professional sysadmins who are complaining loudest about the site? Surely you should have fewer problems with patches and maintainers than the writers who have successfully contributed to the site? I don't think this is about practical editing. I think this is about lust for shiny new toys, control and flaming someone you don't like. Please use something other than the core ALUG info pages as your plaything.
I have no problems with patches, other than the fact that they may or may not be applied, on a psuedo random basis, and that the scripts send the patch via e-mail to you personally, not a set of web masters... But hey, how could that *ever* be a problem, you've never had broken e-mail, right? and you've certainly never lost a legitimate mail before, have you?
And, of course, it's a very high threshold for new contributors, it's a PITA for maintainance, and it could work a lot better...
Maybe there should be another list? or at least an alias? admins@alug.org.uk or web@alug.org.uk or similar, and it should be noted somewhere reasonably prominant on the site.
Even if we made a subset of the site a wiki that requires authorisation
[...]
People seem divided about wikis and passwords. For now, I'll take up Al's renovation offer, because I think that can be done quickly, unless there's a good reason not to.
phpwiki is a very broken wiki engine, it would be good to replace it with one of the (numerous) other wiki engines out there, current favourite for me is moinmoin, your milage may vary.
Thanks,