Alan Pope alan@popey.com wrote:
UKLUGS (Andy Smith?) control the web hosting and domains IIRC. [...]
No, LUG.org.uk (UKLUGS) don't do any hosting for Anglia LUG(s).
But it does one of the *domains* http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/
samwise samwise@bagshot-row.org wrote:
Why not use the flexible wiki at http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/ ?
One simple reason. I had no idea it existed.
Ever read http://www.alug.org.uk/ ?
There are seemingly only four entries, which don't look as if they've been contributed by your common-or-garden user.
Argh! It seems that an evil spammer has unlinked most of the pages and there's some permission problem with editing. There are more pages, but I can't relink. I'll list them at the end of this mail.
There's also no mention of it on the submissions page [http://www.alug.org.uk/background/submissions.html],
but it is mentioned on the front page. Pobody's nerfect.
which expresses the preferences that page changes should be discussed with the page author and that any new pages would be better discussed on the list ... I don't think it's unfair to say that the current site "appears" to be static - it's filled with references to 3 year old events - and isn't atm very "inviting" for new content.
IIRC, the site is also littered with comments like "We really need people to help keep the web site up to date." How do you make it inviting? There's a simple web editing interface at the moment, which seems better than things like the special mvs MediaWiki client to me, but each to their own. If it doesn't bite me, I won't bite it.
However, looking at it constructively, there are a number of features which I can't seem to find. To take one example at random, one of the ideas discussed last night was a support questions page, where a user can ask a question and get answers recorded by other members.
http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/contrib/?TipsTricksAndWorkarounds
We discussed a few questions, including one which we really need to see screenshots of, in order to resolve. Is there a way I can easily upload an image over HTTP on this contrib page? That feature might also be handy to use Photos to record meets.
Probably not. It's a bit old. That's why there have been N update attempts. (IMO, it would be nice if bpgallery could be used for photos, supporting an ALUG member's software, but I don't know if it has/can have suitable features.)
[...] After a couple of fruitful mails, on and off-list, I'm afraid I haven't heard anything back from David, as I understood it one half of the two webmasters, when I asked some specific questions about the possibilities of something like a MediaWiki installation ...
(I thought you were posting about a wiki, not a MediaWiki...)
that included an offer for assistance to help with building such a site, and also questions about how we might be able to access the servers remotely from Suffolk, incl. questions about access as root ...
Remote access is by ssh or ftp, as far as I know. Why do you want root on the webserver? It's on shared hosting donated by php4hosting.co.uk as far as I can recall, so no root there yet.
Anyway, if someone goes silent, please bring it back to the list. It'll either shame them into action, or build support for working around them or adding to them. (This applies to anyone IMO.)
My offer to assist with the ALUG website still stands, if ALUG as a whole wishes to move in this direction.
My usual rule of thumb is "he who does wins" - there's not really any good way to figure out what "ALUG as a whole" wishes before you start, so I suggest not waiting for that. JFDI.
At the end of the day, I didn't get any firm interest from anyone with the root passwords in my last thread that this was something that you intended to do in the very immediate future.
I don't think the people with the root passwords are near Ipswich, so maybe they weren't reading a thread titled "Ipswich LUG"?
I don't feel it's my place to demand access to a server in someone else's control when I'm the new kid on the block, which is how we reach the alternative of running a separate site. If you can organise a discussion with the relevant ALUG server admins to address the kind of features we're talking about here (IMHO, atm essentially a more flexible MediaWiki instance) sometime soon, I'd be happy to participate.
What is needed to bring a MediaWiki up? Its accessibility- and related problems means that I've not been able to recommend it anywhere yet.
Options seem to be: 1. add it to the current static site; 2. add media.alug.org.uk to DNS and point it at another server; 3. something else.
In fact, I'll even make a rare trip to Norwich, if someone can organise a discussion of the topic.
David? Sionide?
Last I knew, there were wiki pages called: [AddingPages] [AlugFaq] [AlugMeetings] [April 21st.] [April 27th.] [ATI on Debian] [AudioGalaxySatellite] [BitTorrent] [BroadbandVenues] [ClientsForIm] [ClientsForIrc] [ComparisonInEastAnglia] [ConvertSpacesToTabs] [DeadPage] [DemosOfferedDemosWanted] [DesktopEnvironments] [DiskUsage] [DownloaderForx] [DownloadManagers] [EditText] [Elmswell] [Elmswell for April 21st.] [Elmswell for March 24th.] [emacs] [EmacsMailClients] [FileDownloaders] [FileSharing] [FindPage] [FrontPage] [FrozenBubble] [GaimIm] [GameSoftware] [GEdit] [Gftp] [GoodStyle] [GtkGnutella] [HelpRequired] [HowToUseWiki] [InternetSoftware] [ItouchKeys] [July 14th] [June 9th] [KingsLynn] [LibraryBooklist] [LinuxInstallDay] [LinuxInstallDay2002] [LinuxShow] [MailClients] [May 18th.] [May 19th] [MeetingReports] [MeetingTransport] [MeetingVenues] [MembersDirectory] [MoreAboutMechanics] [MostPopular] [nano] [NextMeetingsSummary] [NorthLynn] [NvidiaOnDebian] [NvidiaOnMandrake] [OfficeSoftware] [OtherAlugs] [PhpWiki] [PhpWikiAdministration] [PlanetAlug] [ProgrammingTools] [public Wireless Access Points in Norwich] [Quake] [Quake2] [QuakeForge] [quick test] [Read LSH Review] [RecentChanges] [RecentVisitors] [ReleaseNotes] [SandBox] [SiteSuggestion] [SoftwareDirectory] [SteveWainstead] [StuartParker] [SylpheedReview] [SyndicationTools] [TestPage] [Text Editors] [TextFormattingRules] [TipsTricksAndWorkarounds] [UsbCdWriter] [vi] [WabiSabi] [WebBrowsers] [WikiWikiWeb] [Wireless]
I hope some of those can be salvaged!
Hope that helps,