Please, this is not a get at iPlug or ALUG day. Why is it being treated as one.
What is wrong with us at iPlug having a wiki of our own?
Do we have to do everything together? If so, why have separate names?
Now people, play nice. This was only our first meeting. Do not lets spoil something that was good and fun and interesting with nasty fighting when there is nothing to fight about.
Tracy x
-----Original Message----- From: main-bounces@lists.alug.org.uk [mailto:main-bounces@lists.alug.org.uk] On Behalf Of MJ Ray Sent: 20 February 2007 14:23 To: samwise@bagshot-row.org; main@lists.alug.org.uk Subject: Re: [ALUG] Re: IpLUG - Meeting
samwise samwise@bagshot-row.org wrote: [...]
That said, the consensus last night seemed to me that a flexible wiki was a priority for us and, therefore, I'm going to go ahead and set that up before the next meet under the iPlug name (a branch of ALUG). I hope this doesn't come across as a an attempt to splinter the ALUG community, but I truly don't want to pile on pressure and deadlines to
a community which, I'm sure, has been doing perfectly well on its own so far ... ;)
Yes, I feel it comes across as an attempt to splinter the ALUG.
Why not use the flexible wiki at http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/ ? It's only 'not open' because there's been some low-maintenance efforts to block spammers. If you want to replace the WikiEngine, change the anti-spam and revamp the content, I'm sure many people would welcome that. The webmasters could either give you ssh, ftp or a redirect. I tried to replace it in the past, but lack of familiarity with modern wikis and a worker going silent mid-change meant it never happened.
If ALUG moves towards the same open model at any point in the future,
Huh? How is ALUG not open? Have the cabal suddenly moved in and locked it down in the few months since I left? I doubt it.
All you have to do is pick a job and start doing it yourselves. You don't have to "pile on pressure and deadlines" to anyone.
I suggest starting by either editing the pages with the "Edit Page" links or getting website access of a type you like from either: David Reynolds Sionide and if they don't move: Jonathan McDowell Me (maybe) should still also have access and can add access, while: Darren Casey Jonathan McDowell Martyn Drake UKLUGS (Andy Smith?) control the web hosting and domains IIRC. I'm sure one of those will have time to open the door to you.
I think iPlug seems to have a bad case of 'Not Invented Here' and is unwilling to cooperate with its neighbours. I feel it's particularly stupid to split an existing web site when lugmasters have been looking at merging/co-hosting dynamic sites, to ease maintenance: there just aren't enough webmaster-hours to go round. If iPlug has spare webmaster-hours, please share them!
Regards,