I don't agree with that, a friend got a 3rd, and I consider him way above me in most things (yeah that's you bing ;) In my opinion, just because someone has a degree dosen't mean they have more experience/knowledge than somebody else. Some of the most knowledgeable people I know didn't go to uni.
I agree! I did well at university, but it only means that I am smart enough to pretend to be smart- by thinking in a way predefined as 'correct' by my professors, most of which could tell you almost everything about a certain chemical reaction or whatever, but couldn't remember to do up their flies, and let themselves dangle out.
As for grades... they don't really matter too much either, you can do absoloutely bugger all work and still do well, you just have to be cunning.
Look at all the f*ckwits on graduate schemes for big companies- surely they are reason enough to take academic results with a ton of salt?!
Wouldn't it be better to choose employees very specifically on their personal merits and abilities- these things you can't tell by looking on paper. A lazy but smart person can do well, and a hard-working but 'not as a bright' person can do well also. Which would you rather have? They are not simply the same in the workplace, whereas under our normal examination techniques they are. Besides which, you only begin to ACTUALLY learn about real-life AFTER uni, and this includes vocational skills.
Of course, this is all coming from an academically brilliant but exceptionally lazy person who can't even tell his *rse from his elbow... Kinda shooting myself in the foot, methinks. ;P
Well, I'm not looking for a job... yet... ;D
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Ricardo Campos wrote:
enough to pretend to be smart- by thinking in a way predefined as 'correct' by my professors, most of which could tell you almost
Anyone who does well at uni knows this, but it isn't enough. I know it's lovely to pretend you can scrape through with bulls* and last minute revision, but it doesn't actually work.
Wouldn't it be better to choose employees very specifically on their personal merits and abilities- these things you can't tell by looking on
And you can judge someone's personality perfectly from a 10min interview?
ACTUALLY learn about real-life AFTER uni, and this includes vocational skills.
Ridiculous. University is life. You mentioned professors have their own idea of what 'correct' is? Well so do bosses. Usually it's a moving target. At uni you have deadlines, and if you miss you lose 20% (ie 2 grades, 1st to 2:2). IME people can usually make some slack in deadlines, although of course they get teed off if you miss consistently. And of course, at uni you're expected to work indefinitely until you have 'done your best'. At work you do 9-5, with extra hours discretionary and potentially chargable (disclaimer, this attitude may lose you your job, bosses love to think they own your life- not mine, fortunately).
Of course, this is all coming from an academically brilliant but exceptionally lazy person who can't even tell his *rse from his elbow...
I tend to the 'brilliant but lazy' as well actually. My justification is that I get so much done when I _do_ work, it averages out the amount of time I waste.
Alexis