Hi there,
My name is Robert Frusher and have joined the mailing list, I live in King's Lynn Norfolk, presently driving buses for a living...
I'm probably not quite a newbie of Linux as I have been using it on and off for about five years. Have had many problems and solved some of them. I was pointed to the group and mailing list by Nick, from Home and Business computing in Lynn.
I use both Windows XP and Slackware Linux, the latter more often than not because of what I use my computer for - Web, Email, Software Development and Databases... (I have a degree in computer software engineering I like to keep up with it)
Expect some questions, and if I see anything that I may be able to help with I will give it a shot.
Robert Frusher
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My name is Robert Frusher and have joined the mailing list, I live in King's Lynn Norfolk, presently driving buses for a living...
I'm probably not quite a newbie of Linux as I have been using it on and off for about five years. Have had many problems and solved some of them. I was pointed to the group and mailing list by Nick, from Home and Business computing in Lynn.
I use both Windows XP and Slackware Linux, the latter more often than not because of what I use my computer for - Web, Email, Software Development and Databases... (I have a degree in computer software engineering I like to keep up with it)
Expect some questions, and if I see anything that I may be able to help with I will give it a shot.
Nice to welcome you on board, Robert.
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Just as a recap for the list (as I don't post much ATM)
I have CP/M but the box it lives in is borked ATM DOS 6.22 and Win 3.11 which sometimes I use (on a 486 flaptop) Win 98SE (Which I use) Win2000, which I don't, ATM Debian, which I'd like to, but haven't got round to (down to?) learning to fly Knoppix on a disc Linux FT on 6 discs - but a museum piece. Mini Linux - another museum piece, which is *SUPPOSED* to work in a DOS partition Some old distros on coverdiscs All the apps on Linux Magazine's coverdiscs, issues 1 - 16, 18 and 20
On Tuesday 13 April 2004 20:59, Anthony Anson wrote:
I have CP/M but the box it lives in is borked ATM
ooooh, what sort of box is it. I have a Reasearch Machines 380Z sitting in my parents garage, booted last time I dug it out, got all the floppies somewhere safe. It had been built up to a 480Z with bits and bobs laying around my old schools IT department. Double sideded Drives, Colour Graphics card etc...
Also somewhere I have another CP/M machine built around a more standard bus (STE bus perhaps, not sure now but it was something quite generic) But that had a dud disk controller last time I tried to fire it up.
In short if you need help trying to resurrect your old CP/M machine, or want me to rumage though the 2nd machine I have for spares then let me know. The RM machine will be naff all use to you unless you needed drives or yours was a RM, they used a funny bus and "sometimes" a funny subset of CP/M.
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On Tuesday 13 April 2004 20:59, Anthony Anson wrote:
I have CP/M but the box it lives in is borked ATM
ooooh, what sort of box is it. I have a Reasearch Machines 380Z sitting in my parents garage, booted last time I dug it out, got all the floppies somewhere safe. It had been built up to a 480Z with bits and bobs laying around my old schools IT department. Double sideded Drives, Colour Graphics card etc...
Sorry to disappoint you but it's an Amstrad PCW 8512, but it does have a 3œ" floppy drive as well as the 3" one, and has been added to so that it has a proper parallel port and an inkjet printer and (take a deep breath) a modem.
Also somewhere I have another CP/M machine built around a more standard bus (STE bus perhaps, not sure now but it was something quite generic) But that had a dud disk controller last time I tried to fire it up.
In short if you need help trying to resurrect your old CP/M machine, or want me to rumage though the 2nd machine I have for spares then let me know. The RM machine will be naff all use to you unless you needed drives or yours was a RM, they used a funny bus and "sometimes" a funny subset of CP/M.
I think the only promble is a borked elastic band on the 3" floopy drive, and I can get those. well, I did have the address but come to think of it, the drive it was written on stopped going round.
The reason I kept two of the Amstrads is that I have about forty CF2 discs to transcribe, the offer of a Locolink (if only I could remember who offered it!) and a set of Locoscript Professional floppies (for DOS).
I had the (silly) idea that if I transferred the stuff from the 3" discs to 3œ" ones (I still have some old double density ones) I could run a CP/M emulator on the PC and sneak the stuff in that way.
But no: I might have guessed. Disc format not recognised. Return to GO, do not collect £200.
Oh, and I forgot to mention the ZX80......
Anthony Anson wrote:
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On Tuesday 13 April 2004 20:59, Anthony Anson wrote:
I have CP/M but the box it lives in is borked ATM
ooooh, what sort of box is it. I have a Reasearch Machines 380Z sitting in my parents garage, booted last time I dug it out, got all the floppies somewhere safe. It had been built up to a 480Z with bits and bobs laying around my old schools IT department. Double sideded Drives, Colour Graphics card etc...
Sorry to disappoint you but it's an Amstrad PCW 8512, but it does have a 3½" floppy drive as well as the 3" one, and has been added to so that it has a proper parallel port and an inkjet printer and (take a deep breath) a modem.
Also somewhere I have another CP/M machine built around a more standard bus (STE bus perhaps, not sure now but it was something quite generic) But that had a dud disk controller last time I tried to fire it up.
In short if you need help trying to resurrect your old CP/M machine, or want me to rumage though the 2nd machine I have for spares then let me know. The RM machine will be naff all use to you unless you needed drives or yours was a RM, they used a funny bus and "sometimes" a funny subset of CP/M.
I think the only promble is a borked elastic band on the 3" floopy drive, and I can get those. well, I did have the address but come to think of it, the drive it was written on stopped going round.
The reason I kept two of the Amstrads is that I have about forty CF2 discs to transcribe, the offer of a Locolink (if only I could remember who offered it!) and a set of Locoscript Professional floppies (for DOS).
I had the (silly) idea that if I transferred the stuff from the 3" discs to 3½" ones (I still have some old double density ones) I could run a CP/M emulator on the PC and sneak the stuff in that way.
But no: I might have guessed. Disc format not recognised. Return to GO, do not collect £200.
Oh, and I forgot to mention the ZX80......
Hi Tony, Robert and all,
well, i'm *another* new member, and this is an even smaller hello, as i'm rushed off my feet with various projects and activities at the moment. Don't worry about the disc transfer PCW to PC, all is not lost. I have a PCW 9512 and have locolink installed on this PC, and i *might* even be able to find the installation CDs - having moved house since i last used them. Whatever happened to locoscript and the PCW? I did all my letters and book drafts on mine in the early nineties until getting our first PC, and like you have quite a lot of content on PCW discs. I also have something called Moonstone2in1 which runs on the PCW, and if i remember correctly, is needed to convert PCW format files to MS-Dos format. So I hope to get along to a meeting *someday* soon, of someone could just help me get a bit more organised...:) I won't bore you with the fact that i'm running win98se on a PC which has already been back to OneStepBeyond once, where i lost a hard drive which was omitting smoke. They fitted a fan to the new 80gb slave drive i insisted they sell me and back up the remaining drive immediately. The fan is now giving making strange ticking noises, and as the PC lies on its side with the cover off, i notice that my older 60gb boot drive is considerably hotter than the new one - really i think they would have done me better service by fitting a fan to this, too (both are seagate barracudas). And somwhere in the depths of this PC, distributed amongst the drives, is (I hope!) the remains of my dual-boot Fedora linux installation which was fine, 'til having to reinstall win98 caused grub to vanish!. Boy, something just made a weird noise ! - it's like listening to a car engine, wondering if your 'big end' is about to go! So if you don't hear from me, you'll know it has....
Seriously though folks, I go by the netnick 'kee', cos there seem to be about a million richard smiths - maybe we should co-ordinate via google - we'd out-do Dave Gorman. Anthony, the Locolink thing is a serious offer, it just might be a little while before i get to it. If anyone knows the simple way to use my Fedora coveridisc 'linux rescue' function to actually rescue my grub boot loader and dual install, i'd be grateful. I'd just got it working nicely with my NTL cable connection, although i had to install a new nic, as Fedora couldn't recognise my old Compaq 'netelligent' one. Oh yes, i've been 'dabbling' in computers since i did a short course in COBOL at Control Data in Birmingham in 1980. It didn't get me a new career, but i did get to play 'Colossal Cave' on their mini-computer, and a couple of years later bought a Spectrum 48k, so i could complete it. Ah, the many strange and distorted paths that led us all here.... I also have a computer mad 15 year old son who you might meet at some time - are meetings in pubs open to under 18s, or i guess realistically if you have any in the Millennium Library i'm more likely to make it there.
See ya!
kee
On Tuesday 20 April 2004 16:08, Richard 'Kee' Smith wrote:
They fitted a fan to the new 80gb slave drive i insisted they sell me and back up the remaining drive immediately. The fan is now giving making strange ticking noises, and as the PC lies on its side with the cover off, i notice that my older 60gb boot drive is considerably hotter than the new one
When you get your boot loader working again it may be worth installing the linux smartmontools, included in these should be smartctl which can run off-line and on-line diagnostics on your hard drives and report the findings (look at the man page to find out how to run the tests)
Lots of interesting stuff to be found including drive run hours, power cycles, error counts, current temp etc. Can be a bit of a pain to decipher it all but just post the output here and someone will tell you if it's good or bad news.
As to fixing Grub, can't really help you much there as I am still very much a lilo man myself :o)
Maybe mounting up the / and /boot partition from the recovery console and doing something like grub-install --recheck /dev/hda (you may want to read some docs here as I think you may have to point it at it's config files first) Be carefull or you could wipe out the ability to boot Windows (not that that's always a bad thing) Checking the existing grub config still has the win98 boot option is probably a wise thing to do beforehand.
As to your 60GB drive running hot, my two 7200 RPM seagates are both running at 31C at the moment, however these have two 8 CM fans blowing onto them so I'd expect maybe mid to high 30's without the fans.
BTW, contray to what logic may suggest, PC's can run hotter with the lid off ! The ATX case was designed so that the PSU fan and any additional fans would move the air around the case in a very specific way, take away the sides and you actually stop air getting sucked past the drives at the front (unless you have front fans) and there is reduced airflow past some of the mainboard components.
W
On 2004-04-20 17:08:11 +0100 Richard 'Kee' Smith richard-s@ntlworld.com wrote:
well, i'm *another* new member, and this is an even smaller hello, as i'm rushed off my feet with various projects and activities at the moment.
Hi, nice to hear from you. Welcome to the LUG. I'm also rushed, so could you delete some of the previous message when replying? Your text started over four pages down the email.
[...] are meetings in pubs open to under 18s, or i guess realistically if you have any in the Millennium Library i'm more likely to make it there.
This might be a good reason to get weekend meetings back at the UEA, or do you know of meeting rooms at the library?
This might be a good reason to get weekend meetings back at the UEA,
Not a single response yet to my suggestion a few days ago of a sunday UEA meeting at the end of June.
That doesn't bother me personally but dead-horse-flogging is not a useful way to spend my time!
Syd
On Wednesday 21 April 2004 07:18, Syd Hancock wrote:
This might be a good reason to get weekend meetings back at the UEA,
Not a single response yet to my suggestion a few days ago of a sunday UEA meeting at the end of June.
That doesn't bother me personally but dead-horse-flogging is not a useful way to spend my time!
ATM, UEA is just one big, noisy building site! I don't what it'll be like at the end of June....
What rooms do you normally use at UEA? Union House is fairly inaccessible ATM.
Richard.
On Wed, Apr 21, 2004 at 07:18:29AM +0100, Syd Hancock wrote:
This might be a good reason to get weekend meetings back at the UEA,
Not a single response yet to my suggestion a few days ago of a sunday UEA meeting at the end of June.
That doesn't bother me personally but dead-horse-flogging is not a useful way to spend my time!
Uh, yeah sounds good, I would probably come as would most other people. I think that people want a firm date/time before saying if they are coming as Alug seems to have a history of people all saying that they are going to come if you someone books a meeting "June-ish" and then it turns out that 50% of people are attending a birthday party, or going to another event, or that it rains and then don't come so I guess that people are keeping quiet :)
Anyhow I would like to come, as would Kirsty I presume and the Alug library has been begging for a walk again.
Adam
On Wednesday 21 Apr 2004 9:54 am, adam@thebowery.co.uk wrote:
Uh, yeah sounds good, I would probably come as would most other people. I think that people want a firm date/time before saying if they are coming
Yes, that's true but on the other hand a quick prod gets the discussion moving sometimes :-)
Syd
On 2004-04-21 07:18:29 +0100 Syd Hancock syd@toufol.com wrote:
Not a single response yet to my suggestion a few days ago of a sunday UEA meeting at the end of June.
Seems a good idea. When and what's the meeting to do?
That doesn't bother me personally but dead-horse-flogging is not a useful way to spend my time!
Well, I think I missed it. You need to make more noise with that horse. Try flogging it with firecrackers?
On Thursday 22 Apr 2004 1:19 am, MJ Ray wrote:
On 2004-04-21 07:18:29 +0100 Syd Hancock syd@toufol.com wrote:
Not a single response yet to my suggestion a few days ago of a sunday UEA meeting at the end of June.
Seems a good idea. When and what's the meeting to do?
That doesn't bother me personally but dead-horse-flogging is not a useful way to spend my time!
Well, I think I missed it. You need to make more noise with that horse. Try flogging it with firecrackers?
I thought the subject line and content were very clear but perhaps I was mistaken. Here it is again:
--- QUOTE --- [ALUG] Norwich sunday meetings - another suggestion Date: Monday 7:00:34 am From: Syd Hancock syd@toufol.com To: main@lists.alug.org.uk CC: announce announce@lists.alug.org.uk
A couple of people have said that they can book a room at UEA, which has always been a popular choice of venue.
Since the upcoming 'anniversary' get-together at the start of May has already been discussed and arranged, and since it seems best to keep that as more of a social than a technical event, I suggest that we have another sunday meet in Norwich, at UEA, to bring kit along etc, fairly soon.
I propose the last w/e in June, i.e sunday 28th June. Does this clash with any other planned events, local or national?
As always, comments welcome especially anyone who can say that they intend to be there. --- END QUOTE ---
On 2004-04-22 07:37:16 +0100 Syd Hancock syd@toufol.com wrote:
I thought the subject line and content were very clear but perhaps I was mistaken.
I was awash with suggestions on this and other lists. I leave general plans of Norwich-centred meetings to people around Norwich, who are more likely to be able to attend, so their opinions matter more.
I propose the last w/e in June, i.e sunday 28th June. Does this clash with any other planned events, local or national?
Web searches don't suggest so. Anyone know good event calendars for this sort of thing? http://www.protest.net/imcuk/index.cgi?span=week&list=Off&state_valu... might be one.
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