Well I'm getting on quite well with my Fedora 7 system. I now have Vmware Workstation 6.01 installed on it. There were problems with Vmware 6 on Fedora 7 but these seem to have been resolved by 6.01. As this is one of the reasons I moved to Fedora from Slackware (simple, no hassle, installation of Vmware) this is a big plus for me.
It's also been very easy to get apache up and running, and printers, as regards ease of use, instllation, etc. Fedora 7 has been excellent.
However!!! .... It's not 100% stable. I originally thought the problem was with the Gnome desktop so I have reverted to my FVWM window manager and, although that seems to have reduced the frequency of crashes it died in much the same way just now using FVWM.
The display simply freezes, no diagnostics, no drama, nothing. Keyboard no longer works, cursor is frozen, can't switch to alternate console or anything.
The kernel is still running because I can ping the system from my garage system but no services are running, i.e. I can't ssh into the system to shut it down or anything. The only way out is to hit the reset button.
Subjectively it feels like the crash/hang occurs when there's a lot of graphic activity, for example the last crash occurred just as CUPS redrew the whole browser window after installing a printer. Other crashes also seem to be at graphically intensive times and the Gnome desktop does work the graphics harder than fvwm so that might explain why it dies more often using Gnome.
There's absolutely nothing in /var/log/messages, there isn't a syslog.
The video hardware is Nvidia and Fedora 7 isn't using the same Nvidia drivers that Slackware did. With Slackware I had to compile/install the Nvidia driver myself (downloaded from Nvidia) but the Fedora installation recognised the card and has drivers, the xorg.conf file says:-
Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "nv" EndSection
Does anyone know if there are any stability problems with the "nv" driver? Would I be better off getting the latest Nvidia supplied one? I'll do some Google searching on this front but any comments would be welcome.
On 28/09/2007, Chris G cl@isbd.net wrote:
Subjectively it feels like the crash/hang occurs when there's a lot of graphic activity, for example the last crash occurred just as CUPS redrew the whole browser window after installing a printer. Other crashes also seem to be at graphically intensive times and the Gnome desktop does work the graphics harder than fvwm so that might explain why it dies more often using Gnome.
There's absolutely nothing in /var/log/messages, there isn't a syslog.
Nothing in the Xorg.0.log file?
Does anyone know if there are any stability problems with the "nv" driver? Would I be better off getting the latest Nvidia supplied one? I'll do some Google searching on this front but any comments would be welcome.
Can't speak for the default supplied driver with FC7, but I would almost always insist on using nvidia's own drivers where possible due to performance (and stability) issues alone. Don't always go for the latest and greatest driver - take a look around the nvidia forums an
I've found 1.0-8776 to be quite stable.
Regards,
Martyn
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 11:41:49AM +0100, Martyn Drake wrote:
On 28/09/2007, Chris G cl@isbd.net wrote:
Subjectively it feels like the crash/hang occurs when there's a lot of graphic activity, for example the last crash occurred just as CUPS redrew the whole browser window after installing a printer. Other crashes also seem to be at graphically intensive times and the Gnome desktop does work the graphics harder than fvwm so that might explain why it dies more often using Gnome.
There's absolutely nothing in /var/log/messages, there isn't a syslog.
Nothing in the Xorg.0.log file?
No, Xorg.0.log.old is identical to Xorg.0.log and the end of the file just has the Keyboard and Mouse devices being loaded.
Does anyone know if there are any stability problems with the "nv" driver? Would I be better off getting the latest Nvidia supplied one? I'll do some Google searching on this front but any comments would be welcome.
Can't speak for the default supplied driver with FC7, but I would almost always insist on using nvidia's own drivers where possible due to performance (and stability) issues alone. Don't always go for the latest and greatest driver - take a look around the nvidia forums an
I've found 1.0-8776 to be quite stable.
Well I have downloaded the current Nvidia driver which is 100.14.11 and that has just died on me in exactly the same way. The README file has lots of possible causes for instability listed and workarounds for them so maybe I'll start trying some of them.
Quite a few of the times that it has died have been when the Gnome equivalent of the hourglass is running, that's the little ring of dots running around the cursor. I wonder if that's using some particular part of the display hardware.
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 11:02:00AM +0100, Chris G wrote:
The video hardware is Nvidia and Fedora 7 isn't using the same Nvidia drivers that Slackware did. With Slackware I had to compile/install the Nvidia driver myself (downloaded from Nvidia) but the Fedora installation recognised the card and has drivers, the xorg.conf file says:-
Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "nv" EndSectionDoes anyone know if there are any stability problems with the "nv" driver? Would I be better off getting the latest Nvidia supplied one? I'll do some Google searching on this front but any comments would be welcome.
I have installed the proprietary nvidia drivers so lets see if that fixes the problem.
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 11:43:54AM +0100, Chris G wrote:
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 11:02:00AM +0100, Chris G wrote:
The video hardware is Nvidia and Fedora 7 isn't using the same Nvidia drivers that Slackware did. With Slackware I had to compile/install the Nvidia driver myself (downloaded from Nvidia) but the Fedora installation recognised the card and has drivers, the xorg.conf file says:-
Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "nv" EndSectionDoes anyone know if there are any stability problems with the "nv" driver? Would I be better off getting the latest Nvidia supplied one? I'll do some Google searching on this front but any comments would be welcome.
I have installed the proprietary nvidia drivers so lets see if that fixes the problem.
... which it doesn't! :-(
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