I have a 750 pIII with Gentoo on it, got the system cheap cos i work in a computer shop. built OS, kernel and so on, but im having trouble with grub.... now, the help file said to : # grub grub> root (hd0,0) grub> setup (hd0) grub> quit # nano -w /boot/grub/grub.conf nano> default 0 nano> timeout 30 nano> # there is a splash image here, but i cant remember the path, and commenting nano> # it out doesnt change things nano> nano> title Mp3/web server nano> root (hd0,0) nano> kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage root=/dev/hda2 nano> when i run grub> setup (hd0), i get a messages about grub.conf - a positive message. copying it to manu.lst dosent work either. when i boot, i get grub screen, as if i had run grub from the command prompt. no sign of the splash screen. i assume this is a broken config? if i then type: grub> kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage grub> boot the system will boot as normal. BTW hda1 = /boot = 50mb hda2 = / = ~19.8GB hda3 = swap = 150mb ideally i want this booting, then ill build apache, mysql, php and all the other stuff. the 20gb is temporary, will buy an 80GB and serve streaming mp3s from a website over the local lan. YAY-YAY-YAY my new system ariving today: chaintech 7njs deluxe (nforce2, 3 PATA, 2SATA channels) 2600+ 333fsb 2 x 512mb crucial PC2700 2x abit serielle SATA adaptors for PATA drives 550 watt PSU, gold, twin transparent fans 'silent' Volcano 9, dabs eta 2 weeks, Dragon Orb 3 hairdryer for now. total bill? 604 (including paying myself at 35 p/h to build it... he he he) Tristan Scott Computer Engineer PC-Seller PLC 355 Alysham road, opposite boundary pub Norwich NR3 2RX Tel: 01603 442233 Fax: 01603 404410
Tristan Scott wrote:
I have a 750 pIII with Gentoo on it, got the system cheap cos i work in a computer shop. built OS, kernel and so on, but im having trouble with grub....
now, the help file said to : # grub grub> root (hd0,0) grub> setup (hd0) grub> quit # nano -w /boot/grub/grub.conf nano> default 0 nano> timeout 30 nano> # there is a splash image here, but i cant remember the path, and commenting nano> # it out doesnt change things nano> nano> title Mp3/web server nano> root (hd0,0) nano> kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage root=/dev/hda2 nano>
when i run grub> setup (hd0), i get a messages about grub.conf - a positive message. copying it to manu.lst dosent work either.
when i boot, i get grub screen, as if i had run grub from the command prompt. no sign of the splash screen. i assume this is a broken config?
if i then type:
grub> kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage grub> boot
the system will boot as normal. BTW hda1 = /boot = 50mb hda2 = / = ~19.8GB hda3 = swap = 150mb
ideally i want this booting, then ill build apache, mysql, php and all the other stuff. the 20gb is temporary, will buy an 80GB and serve streaming mp3s from a website over the local lan.
You need something like: ---- cut here ---- # cat /boot/grub/grub.conf default 0 timeout 5 splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz title=Whatever you want here root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/bzImage root=/dev/hda2 ---- cut here ---- Be sure you have "/boot/bzImage" and "root=/dev/hda2" correct or it won't boot! Cheers, Laurie. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Laurie Brown laurie@brownowl.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------
On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 09:11:53AM -0000, Tristan Scott wrote:
now, the help file said to : # grub grub> root (hd0,0) grub> setup (hd0) grub> quit # nano -w /boot/grub/grub.conf nano> default 0 nano> timeout 30 nano> # there is a splash image here, but i cant remember the path, and commenting
splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz Put that in?
nano> # it out doesnt change things nano> nano> title Mp3/web server nano> root (hd0,0) nano> kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage root=/dev/hda2 nano>
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/bzImage root=/dev/hda2 would be better you know?
when i run grub> setup (hd0), i get a messages about grub.conf - a positive message. copying it to manu.lst dosent work either.
menu.lst should be symlinked to grub.conf do: ln -s /boot/grub/grub.conf menu.lst It should be able to boot this time! ;) -- (o_ - Craig Butcher //\ - IT Technician / Unix Support MTH/ENV @ UEA V_/_ - http://www.wizball.co.uk - Using Gentoo GNU/Linux
nah, in the end i gave up on it, using lilo instead... btw, hda1 is /boot so hd(0,0)/bzImage would, if mounted, point at /boot/bzImage i think. no, ive got a new problem now. chaintech 7njs deluxe (nforce2, 3 PATA, 2SATA channels) 2600+ 333fsb 2 x 512mb crucial PC2700 2x abit serielle SATA adaptors for PATA drives 550 watt PSU, gold, twin transparent fans 'silent' Volcano 9, dabs eta 2 weeks, Dragon Orb 3 hairdryer for now. i discovered i coulnt get my SATA adapters on the back of the drives without sawing 3mm off my ram. so: PATA1: --------CDRW-----DVD PATA2: --------80GB /----- PATA3: --------120GB----- SATA1: -------- SATA2: --------80GB /data /mp3 etc stat1 is at the bottom of the board, sata2 is high enough so the cable /just/ reaches to the fourth 5.25@ bay, with the 80gb in it. Gentoo 1.4 sound works (c-media), but when i start X, i get scrambled characters on a console-font screen. system still responds, login over network works, but VC's dont (ctrl-alt-f1, scroll-lock, alt-f2) no way i get to vc's it seems. only a reboot fixes it, killing X, xinit etc doues not help. tried NVdriver with and without, with and without glx, with nv or nvidia, and combos of the above. using a Ti4400 in AGP, no onboard graphics. nvnet works, cmpci onboard sound works, just damned graphics. oh yes, and winXP pro wont install on that system, tch tch Tristan Scott Computer Engineer PC-Seller PLC 355 Alysham road, opposite boundary pub Norwich NR3 2RX Tel: 01603 442233 Fax: 01603 404410 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig" <craig@wizball.co.uk> To: "ALUG" <main@lists.alug.org.uk> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [Alug] Grub issues
On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 09:11:53AM -0000, Tristan Scott wrote:
now, the help file said to : # grub grub> root (hd0,0) grub> setup (hd0) grub> quit # nano -w /boot/grub/grub.conf nano> default 0 nano> timeout 30 nano> # there is a splash image here, but i cant remember the path, and commenting
splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz
Put that in?
nano> # it out doesnt change things nano> nano> title Mp3/web server nano> root (hd0,0) nano> kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage root=/dev/hda2 nano>
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/bzImage root=/dev/hda2 would be better you know?
when i run grub> setup (hd0), i get a messages about grub.conf - a positive message. copying it to manu.lst dosent work either.
menu.lst should be symlinked to grub.conf
do:
ln -s /boot/grub/grub.conf menu.lst
It should be able to boot this time! ;)
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From: Tristan Scott ...
chaintech 7njs deluxe (nforce2, 3 PATA, 2SATA channels) 2600+ 333fsb 2 x 512mb crucial PC2700 2x abit serielle SATA adaptors for PATA drives 550 watt PSU, gold, twin transparent fans 'silent' Volcano 9, dabs eta 2 weeks, Dragon Orb 3 hairdryer for now.
... Uh! can anyone translate this please? :o) Keith ____________ BIGOT, n. One who is obstinately and incorrectly attached to an opinion other than your own. Ambrose Bierce - The Devil's Dictionary
On Monday 24 Mar 2003 10:05 am, Keith Watson wrote:
From: Tristan Scott
...
chaintech 7njs deluxe (nforce2, 3 PATA, 2SATA channels) 2600+ 333fsb 2 x 512mb crucial PC2700 2x abit serielle SATA adaptors for PATA drives 550 watt PSU, gold, twin transparent fans 'silent' Volcano 9, dabs eta 2 weeks, Dragon Orb 3 hairdryer for now.
...
Uh! can anyone translate this please? :o)
No problem it means Tristian has a nice shiney new machine that does not fit in his case. :-) Cheers, BJ
No problem it means Tristian has a nice shiney new machine that does not fit in his case. :-)
Cheers, BJ
uh, well i got it to fit without resorting to hacksaws either (you didnt think i would _really_ saw the end off my ram did you John? ____________ | | | =4= | | =3= | |____ =2= | |PSU| =1= | | C | |=9= | | _____|_| =0=| | | |___________| C = CPU 0 120Gb and 80Gb, on channels 3 and 2 respectively, both PATA 1 Chaintech CBox2 front breakout box, usb, bios codes etc 2 52x24x52 Lite-On CDRW, master PATA channel 1 3 8x Cheapo samsung DVD ROM, slave PATA channel 1 4 80Gb w/SATA adaptor, sata channel 2 (Sata channel 1 is nearer the bottom of the mobo, cable wont reach) 9 original position of 4, SATA adapter wouldnt fit - not RAM behind drives The line accross the bottom of RAM is a Ti4400, have to remove that, then ram just to remove a HD... Hope my ASCII-Art isnt *too* dire..
On Monday 24 Mar 2003 10:53 am, Tristan Scott wrote:
No problem it means Tristian has a nice shiney new machine that does not fit in his case. :-)
Cheers, BJ
uh, well i got it to fit without resorting to hacksaws either (you didnt think i would _really_ saw the end off my ram did you John?
It has been known, I took an angle grinder to a cdrom drive once and afaik it is still working. :-) Cheers, BJ
On Monday 24 Mar 2003 10:53 am, Tristan Scott wrote:
No problem it means Tristian has a nice shiney new machine that does not fit in his case. :-)
Cheers, BJ
uh, well i got it to fit without resorting to hacksaws either (you didnt think i would _really_ saw the end off my ram did you John?
It has been known, I took an angle grinder to a cdrom drive once and afaik it is still working. :-)
I did take a jigsaw to the front of the case before this, to remove the fan grills. only smashed one fan, then got pliers and bent all the steel back sort of straight. worked fine, still chugging away (albait with a different fan)
Cheers, BJ
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On Monday 24 Mar 2003 9:41 am, Tristan Scott wrote:
nah, in the end i gave up on it, using lilo instead...
btw, hda1 is /boot so hd(0,0)/bzImage would, if mounted, point at /boot/bzImage i think.
no, ive got a new problem now.
chaintech 7njs deluxe (nforce2, 3 PATA, 2SATA channels) 2600+ 333fsb 2 x 512mb crucial PC2700 2x abit serielle SATA adaptors for PATA drives 550 watt PSU, gold, twin transparent fans 'silent' Volcano 9, dabs eta 2 weeks, Dragon Orb 3 hairdryer for now.
i discovered i coulnt get my SATA adapters on the back of the drives without sawing 3mm off my ram.
Just a suggestion but this would seem to be a limitation of the physical dimensions of your case. I would buy a bigger case rather than risk trashing my RAM. :-0
oh yes, and winXP pro wont install on that system, tch tch
This is an added bonus which we should applaud the nice people of Redmund. Please Microsoft keep producing operating systems that will not install on standard hardware to give the rest of the world the option of exploring alternatives. :-) Cheers, BJ
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 09:41:54AM -0000, Tristan Scott wrote:
Gentoo 1.4 sound works (c-media), but when i start X, i get scrambled characters on a console-font screen. system still responds, login over network works, but VC's dont (ctrl-alt-f1, scroll-lock, alt-f2) no way i get to vc's it seems. only a reboot fixes it, killing X, xinit etc doues not help.
tried NVdriver with and without, with and without glx, with nv or nvidia, and combos of the above. using a Ti4400 in AGP, no onboard graphics. nvnet works, cmpci onboard sound works, just damned graphics.
I think you need to ought to sneak http://forums.gentoo.org help for this. I am sure a few people on there actually reported this problem. See if you can go over there for a fix?
oh yes, and winXP pro wont install on that system, tch tch
How come? -- (o_ - Craig Butcher //\ - IT Technician / Unix Support MTH/ENV @ UEA V_/_ - http://www.wizball.co.uk - Using Gentoo GNU/Linux
I think you need to ought to sneak http://forums.gentoo.org help for this. I am sure a few people on there actually reported this problem. See if you can go over there for a fix?
sneaking as we speak
oh yes, and winXP pro wont install on that system, tch tch
How come?
no idea. installing it to hda1 (vfat) it seems to install fine, but boot that drive with lilo and it says boot failure, press any key to restart. i do so and it boots the next in sequence, network boot from onboard lan. its suddenly got more urgent cos ive just 'got' Unreal II and discovered theres no linux binaries, dammit. UT2003 works....
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On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 09:41:54AM -0000, Tristan Scott wrote:
Gentoo 1.4 sound works (c-media), but when i start X, i get scrambled characters on a console-font screen. system still responds, login over network works, but VC's dont (ctrl-alt-f1, scroll-lock, alt-f2) no way i get to vc's it seems. only a reboot fixes it, killing X, xinit etc doues not help.
tried NVdriver with and without, with and without glx, with nv or nvidia, and combos of the above. using a Ti4400 in AGP, no onboard graphics. nvnet works, cmpci onboard sound works, just damned graphics.
What speed AGP is it? (the gfx card) and which agp drivers are you using? If you are using an AGP 3.0 card then things may get interesting as the standard kernel doesnt' support them yet, and the nvidia driver only supports nforce2 boards (which is what you have?) the other thing I notice is that you are referring to "NVdriver" which is an older release than the current "nvidia" driver which added support for the GeForce 4. Which version of the non-free driver are you using? if it is latest why is it called NVdriver? Anyhow enjoy playing around with your settings, it is almost certainly to do with AGP if you get a text console and it all goes a bit messy when starting X. You could try changing your device section in XF86Config-4 to Section "Device" Identifier "NVIDIA GeForce" Driver "nvidia" Option "NvAgp" "0" EndSection Which works for me with my ti4200 agp 8x on a KT400 board. Adam -- jabberid = quinophex@jabber.earth.li AFFS || http://www.affs.org.uk/ || Not a filesystem
What speed AGP is it? (the gfx card)
4x, Ti 4400
and which agp drivers are you using? If you are using an AGP 3.0 card then things may get interesting as the standard kernel doesnt' support them yet,
It worked perfectly with a Abit KG7-RAID
and the nvidia driver only supports nforce2 boards (which is what you have?)
Yup, Chaintech 7jns, nforce2, onboard lan, sound is C-Media something, rather than soundstorm, but that works
the other thing I notice is that you are referring to "NVdriver" which is an older release than the current "nvidia" driver which added support for the GeForce 4. Which version of the non-free driver are you using? if it is latest why is it called NVdriver?
its the 31-23 i think. 31-something. the kernel module is called NVdriver
Anyhow enjoy playing around with your settings, it is almost certainly to do with AGP if you get a text console and it all goes a bit messy when starting
X.
You could try changing your device section in XF86Config-4 to
Section "Device" Identifier "NVIDIA GeForce" Driver "nvidia" Option "NvAgp" "0" EndSection
thanks ill try that, tried gaming-sources last night, no luck
Which works for me with my ti4200 agp 8x on a KT400 board.
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