Hi all, but Bret and Adam especially,
I have been reading the post on this subject and am really worried now about joining IRC and asking for help.
Like Peter I have also used PC/M, in fact I started with the very early Spectrums from Sir Clive. I have also talked people through (over amateur radio) editing Autoexec.bat and Config.sys files, sometimes over and over again.
Like many other users I am new to LINUX, not new to computers. Therefore I EXPECT to make mistakes, how else can I learn?
If I ask 'how do I edit this config file' I want you to tell me just that, not have me email it to you and you email the edited file back, how on earth can I learn anything from that? After all, if I wanted to put a plug on a new bit of coax I wouldn't send it to someone else to do for me! Maybe some would!!
Please, please, please treat me as a new LINUX user and not as a complete dork.
Regards
Peter
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Peter Hunter peterslinuxbox@ntlworld.com wrote:
Hi all, but Bret and Adam especially,
I have been reading the post on this subject and am really worried now about joining IRC and asking for help.
There's no need to worry. We're a friendly, if sometimes odd, bunch.
Like Peter I have also used PC/M, in fact I started with the very early Spectrums from Sir Clive. I have also talked people through (over amateur radio) editing Autoexec.bat and Config.sys files, sometimes over and over again.
Before Amstrad got their grubby paws on it, then :) God, I remember the days of autoexec.bat and config.sys, and am very glad that I don't have to deal with that any more :)
Like many other users I am new to LINUX, not new to computers. Therefore I EXPECT to make mistakes, how else can I learn?
Mistakes are where the real fun comes in, I'll agree with that :)
If I ask 'how do I edit this config file' I want you to tell me just that, not have me email it to you and you email the edited file back, how on earth can I learn anything from that? After all, if I wanted to put a plug on a new bit of coax I wouldn't send it to someone else to do for me! Maybe some would!!
That's *exactly* the kind of info me and adam give, we do not (as far as possible) get you to send us files by e-mail, we carefully consider what you might or might not already know, and go for the simplest, safest approach for the given situation.
Please, please, please treat me as a new LINUX user and not as a complete dork.
Your wish is our command, sir!
Thanks, - -- Brett Parker web: http://www.sommitrealweird.co.uk/ email: iDunno@sommitrealweird.co.uk
On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 10:43 +0100, Brett Parker wrote:
Before Amstrad got their grubby paws on it, then :) God, I remember the days of autoexec.bat and config.sys, and am very glad that I don't have to deal with that any more :)
Actually I sort of miss those days.
I remember hours of fun trying to balance loaded TSR's with available (and pretty scarce) RAM. Oh and remember the different areas of Ram Extended and Expanded wasn't it ? PC Tools and early versions of Norton Utils ?
Not forgetting having to use Debug to low level format Hard Drives and manually parking heads before moving machines.
OK you're right it wasn't that much fun was it :-)
On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 22:11 +0100, Wayne Stallwood wrote:
Oh and remember the different areas of Ram Extended and Expanded wasn't it ?
At uni we used the generic term "expended memory" to cover both cases because we could never remember which was which either :-)
Other phrases that come to mind... "autobat.exec", "soobimitsu disk drives" (Mitsubishi)
Peter O
Hi Peter
On Wednesday 06 July 2005 10:32, Peter Hunter wrote:
I have been reading the post on this subject and am really worried now about joining IRC and asking for help.
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Please, please, please treat me as a new LINUX user and not as a complete dork.
They are a really helpful bunch on IRC, honest. Why, it was only last Saturday that we had a lad from Florida University joining in asking for some *very* specialist help - Couldn't fix the problem as it turned out that the machine had suffered some physical damage during a move..
In general, the conversations that usually take place start with the assumption that everyone is a linux user, not necessarily a power user, but never a numskull.
Regards, Paul.
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If I ask 'how do I edit this config file' I want you to tell me just that, not have me email it to you and you email the edited file back, how on earth can I learn anything from that? After all, if I wanted to put a plug on a new bit of coax I wouldn't send it to someone else to do for me! Maybe some would!!
Some people I know would be very wise to give it to someone else to do...
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