Supposing I do decide to dump Xan dross - I can get the contents of this HDD onto a Mini SD card. But, not wanting to burn my boats until I have a decet distro up and running, what do I need to do to copy it so that it's bootable from USB card reader? Or failing that, memory stick? Thinks: prolly better to install the new distro to a memory stick and get used to it first? IIRC, I had prombles getting this (early) Eee to boot from USB. Nev! Marmalade sometime next week? (ALUG minimeet in Fat Cat innit) -- Tony Anson www.girolle.co.uk/
If you can get it to boot from a USB stick then this is what I'm using .... MSdos bootable USB stick. Download puppy linux, extract the ISO. Download linld.com and then you have most of the following. # ls BOOT.CAT LOGO.16 puppy.lin BOOT.MSG INITRD.GZ LUPU_520.SFS ISOLINUX.BIN lupusave.2fs VMLINUZ HELP2.MSG ISOLINUX.CFG PUPPY.BAT HELP.MSG LINLD.COM puppy.lin # create these files # cat puppy.lin root=/dev/ram0 PMEDIA=usbflash #PFILE=pup001-none-262144 PHOME=sdb1 # Commented out - these kernel parameters aren't needed for most people, # just for my ancient laptop (PS/2 mouse interrupt issue) #pci=irqmask=0x8000 #ide1=noprobe #ide2=noprobe #ide3=noprobe #end puppy.par # # cat puppy.bat linld.com image=\puppy\vmlinuz initrd=\puppy\initrd.gz cl=@\puppy\puppy.lin # then boot from usb into dos and then run the puppy batch file. You then have a small but perfectly formed linux environment. You can then copy the hard drive to dvd(s)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 19:52:05 +0000 From: tony.anson@girolle.co.uk To: main@lists.alug.org.uk Subject: [ALUG] OK, so as an interim measure...
Supposing I do decide to dump Xan dross - I can get the contents of this HDD onto a Mini SD card.
But, not wanting to burn my boats until I have a decet distro up and running, what do I need to do to copy it so that it's bootable from USB card reader?
Or failing that, memory stick?
Thinks: prolly better to install the new distro to a memory stick and get used to it first? IIRC, I had prombles getting this (early) Eee to boot from USB.
Nev! Marmalade sometime next week? (ALUG minimeet in Fat Cat innit)
-- Tony Anson www.girolle.co.uk/
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keithjamieson@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
If you can get it to boot from a USB stick then this is what I'm using ....
MSdos bootable USB stick.
/snip/ Saved, thanks, but so far it refuses to boot into Knoppix from USB. Not tried it yet from the SD card slot. (Which, if I read the boot devices correctly, seems more likely, as USB isn't specifically mentioned AFAICS -- Tony Anson www.girolle.co.uk/
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 19:07:36 +0000 From: tony.anson@girolle.co.uk To: main@lists.alug.org.uk Subject: Re: [ALUG] OK, so as an interim measure...
keithjamieson@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
If you can get it to boot from a USB stick then this is what I'm using ....
MSdos bootable USB stick.
/snip/
Saved, thanks, but so far it refuses to boot into Knoppix from USB. Not tried it yet from the SD card slot. (Which, if I read the boot devices correctly, seems more likely, as USB isn't specifically mentioned AFAICS
Put the SD into another PC and "fat format" it. You can download boot discs, and images. The PC DOS one is free.
keithjamieson@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 19:07:36 +0000 From: tony.anson@girolle.co.uk To: main@lists.alug.org.uk Subject: Re: [ALUG] OK, so as an interim measure...
keithjamieson@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
If you can get it to boot from a USB stick then this is what I'm using ....
MSdos bootable USB stick. /snip/
Saved, thanks, but so far it refuses to boot into Knoppix from USB. Not tried it yet from the SD card slot. (Which, if I read the boot devices correctly, seems more likely, as USB isn't specifically mentioned AFAICS
Put the SD into another PC and "fat format" it. You can download boot discs, and images. The PC DOS one is free.
EXT4 and install straight to SD - I'm going to try Crashbang first - if I don't like it, Knoppix goes on. That's if it will boot from built-in SD or USB, If it won't I shall make a copy of the data on the HDD and install Knoppix instead. I don't do DOS any more (though I do have a 6.22 install file on CD): indeed, did I so want, I could 'upgrade' all the way thhrough W95, W98, W98SE, Win 2000 Pro and XP Pro - but I don't wish... I did think of installing Tom's RTBT on this Eee and go right back to basics - but I chickened-out. -- Tony Anson www.girolle.co.uk/
On 9 January 2011 22:47, Anthony Anson <tony.anson@girolle.co.uk> wrote:
EXT4 and install straight to SD - I'm going to try Crashbang first - if I don't like it, Knoppix goes on.
That's if it will boot from built-in SD or USB, If it won't I shall make a copy of the data on the HDD and install Knoppix instead.
The Eee does definitely boot from USB. At least, my Eee 900 does. That's how I installed Jolicloud on it. You have to press a hotkey to get it to do it though.. The BIOS doesn't by default - when it's booting (and I can NEVER remember which) hit F2, or maybe F12.. it might have been Escape or Del. My Eee is at home so I can't try it out now. Also, if you have a giant massive USB stick. Get hold of XBoot (as reported on Lifehacker: http://lifehacker.com/5716173/xboot-creates-your-own-custom-multi+image-boot... ) then just copy over some ISO files and you can choose which one you boot into. It's totally awesome! Hope you like Crunchbang. Cheers, Si
Simon Elliott wrote:
On 9 January 2011 22:47, Anthony Anson <tony.anson@girolle.co.uk> wrote:
EXT4 and install straight to SD - I'm going to try Crashbang first - if I don't like it, Knoppix goes on.
That's if it will boot from built-in SD or USB, If it won't I shall make a copy of the data on the HDD and install Knoppix instead.
The Eee does definitely boot from USB. At least, my Eee 900 does. That's how I installed Jolicloud on it. You have to press a hotkey to get it to do it though.. The BIOS doesn't by default - when it's booting (and I can NEVER remember which) hit F2, or maybe F12.. it might have been Escape or Del. My Eee is at home so I can't try it out now.
F2 - yes, I've been into the BIOS, and guddled around under the 'Boot' header. AFAICS, USB is not mentioned, though solid state memory (OWTTE) is. This is a very early Eee - so early that I had to queueueueueue for it - somewhere around a month (but that might have been down to the tradr, who was going down the pan). I think the 900 is a lot newer - this has I think) 4 GB HDD. Just exited Crunchbang's website, which is hopeless - the white-on-black is fine, but the rest of it is blue on black, and virtually unreadable. Have pointed this out on the form provided. Next time I'm in Naaardge I shall get a Micro SD card and slot it into one of my carriers, and see if it will boot from that when it's posted in the SD slot.
Also, if you have a giant massive USB stick. Get hold of XBoot (as reported on Lifehacker: http://lifehacker.com/5716173/xboot-creates-your-own-custom-multi+image-boot... ) then just copy over some ISO files and you can choose which one you boot into. It's totally awesome!
What do you mean by 'massive'? They're all too big, even the old Crucial 64 MB one which is hiding in my drawers... With a USB stick (or dongle) in, the slot beside it can't be used. <thinks> I might be persuaded to run the mouse from the other side innit. </thinks> Huh! The dongle needs to be in one of the slots on the right, unless I rearrange the whole room - there's only one window in the house where I can get a usable signal (FSVO useful)
Hope you like Crunchbang.
So do I. But then, I like Knoppix... -- Tony Anson www.girolle.co.uk/
On 10 Jan 2011, at 10:08, Anthony Anson wrote:
Simon Elliott wrote:
On 9 January 2011 22:47, Anthony Anson <tony.anson@girolle.co.uk> wrote:
EXT4 and install straight to SD - I'm going to try Crashbang first - if I don't like it, Knoppix goes on.
That's if it will boot from built-in SD or USB, If it won't I shall make a copy of the data on the HDD and install Knoppix instead. The Eee does definitely boot from USB. At least, my Eee 900 does. That's how I installed Jolicloud on it. You have to press a hotkey to get it to do it though.. The BIOS doesn't by default - when it's booting (and I can NEVER remember which) hit F2, or maybe F12.. it might have been Escape or Del. My Eee is at home so I can't try it out now.
F2 - yes, I've been into the BIOS, and guddled around under the 'Boot' header. AFAICS, USB is not mentioned, though solid state memory (OWTTE) is. This is a very early Eee - so early that I had to queueueueueue for it - somewhere around a month (but that might have been down to the tradr, who was going down the pan). I think the 900 is a lot newer - this has I think) 4 GB HDD.
Have you ever updated the BIOS firmware? Perhaps updating that would reveal the boot from USB option? -- David Reynolds david@reynoldsfamily.org.uk
EXT4 and install straight to SD - I'm going to try Crashbang first - if I don't like it, Knoppix goes on.
That's if it will boot from built-in SD or USB, If it won't I shall make a copy of the data on the HDD and install Knoppix instead.
The Eee does definitely boot from USB. At least, my Eee 900 does. That's how I installed Jolicloud on it. You have to press a hotkey to get it to do it though.. The BIOS doesn't by default - when it's booting (and I can NEVER remember which) hit F2, or maybe F12.. it might have been Escape or Del. My Eee is at home so I can't try it out now.
F2 - yes, I've been into the BIOS, and guddled around under the 'Boot' header. AFAICS, USB is not mentioned, though solid state memory (OWTTE) is. This is a very early Eee - so early that I had to queueueueueue for it - somewhere around a month (but that might have been down to the tradr, who was going down the pan). I think the 900 is a lot newer - this has I think) 4 GB HDD.
Try ESC. I remember hitting esc during boot to do it and you get a small boot menu up in the centre of the screen asking what to boot from. You have to time the ESC hit just right or it'll skip that bit. Although, as you say the difference could lay in Eee900 vs. Eee 7*series. Worst comes to the worst, come to Norwich, see me, get me down the pub with a backpack USB powered DVD drive I can borrow from work and we'll do it that way!! I am determined to see you on Crunchbang cos you'll love it over the naff Xandros.
Just exited Crunchbang's website, which is hopeless - the white-on-black is fine, but the rest of it is blue on black, and virtually unreadable. Have pointed this out on the form provided.
Next time I'm in Naaardge I shall get a Micro SD card and slot it into one of my carriers, and see if it will boot from that when it's posted in the SD slot.
Also, if you have a giant massive USB stick. Get hold of XBoot (as reported on Lifehacker:
http://lifehacker.com/5716173/xboot-creates-your-own-custom-multi+image-boot... ) then just copy over some ISO files and you can choose which one you boot into. It's totally awesome!
What do you mean by 'massive'? They're all too big, even the old Crucial 64 MB one which is hiding in my drawers... With a USB stick (or dongle) in, the slot beside it can't be used. <thinks> I might be persuaded to run the mouse from the other side innit. </thinks>
Massive as in bigger than ~700MB. Which all mine are. I've got several 2gb and a 4gb! Non spare though except a monstrously slow USB 1.1 one.
Huh! The dongle needs to be in one of the slots on the right, unless I rearrange the whole room - there's only one window in the house where I can get a usable signal (FSVO useful)
Yeah Xboot just does what Keith described but it does it all for you automatically(!!) Cheers, Simon
Simon Elliott wrote:
F2 - yes, I've been into the BIOS, and guddled around under the 'Boot' header. AFAICS, USB is not mentioned, though solid state memory (OWTTE) is. This is a very early Eee - so early that I had to queueueueueue for it - somewhere around a month (but that might have been down to the tradr, who was going down the pan). I think the 900 is a lot newer - this has I think) 4 GB HDD.
Try ESC. I remember hitting esc during boot to do it and you get a small boot menu up in the centre of the screen asking what to boot from. You have to time the ESC hit just right or it'll skip that bit. Although, as you say the difference could lay in Eee900 vs. Eee 7*series.
Worst comes to the worst, come to Norwich, see me, get me down the pub with a backpack USB powered DVD drive I can borrow from work and we'll do it that way!! I am determined to see you on Crunchbang cos you'll love it over the naff Xandros.
Promble is, my last bus home leaves Naaardge at 5.45 pm, and there are no buses over the weekend period, period. I'm not using the pushbike at this time of year, and I won't have the motorcycle on the road till I've got my act together and renewed my driving licence (I've reached that age innit), and fettled the ironmongery. I've got an external DVD drive, but it works off a 3-pronged brick, and while I'm quite content to bring that, the only portable power source I have for it is a bleeping UPS... Running a USB-powered drive would eat this Eee's battery in a very short time - it only lasts for half an hour or so with dongle as it is. /snip/
What do you mean by 'massive'? They're all too big, even the old Crucial 64 MB one which is hiding in my drawers... With a USB stick (or dongle) in, the slot beside it can't be used. <thinks> I might be persuaded to run the mouse from the other side innit. </thinks>
Massive as in bigger than ~700MB. Which all mine are. I've got several 2gb and a 4gb!
700 MB? Tiddler! My first was 64 MB, the second 256 MB, the next two were 2 GB, and the last one 4 GB. If a card-reader works the same way, I have an 8 GB microSD one, but that's more than half full. Another is on the shopping list.
Non spare though except a monstrously slow USB 1.1 one.
Huh! The dongle needs to be in one of the slots on the right, unless I rearrange the whole room - there's only one window in the house where I can get a usable signal (FSVO useful)
Yeah Xboot just does what Keith described but it does it all for you automatically(!!)
That's what I like to hear. and I hope it does it on EXT# rather than FAT - that will prevent XP from scribbling on it if I happen to have it plunged into the flaptop when I want to use Irfanviw. -- Tony Anson www.girolle.co.uk/
Simon Elliott wrote:
Also, if you have a giant massive USB stick. Get hold of XBoot (as reported on Lifehacker: http://lifehacker.com/5716173/xboot-creates-your-own-custom-multi+image-boot... ) then just copy over some ISO files and you can choose which one you boot into. It's totally awesome!
Bah! Forgot to say that with a USB card reader I can get at least 8 gig on a MicroSD. -- Tony Anson www.girolle.co.uk/
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