Hi, Who would like/would be willing/can be persuaded to take over the Alug library? Adam and I have been looking after the library for nearly two years now, but we don't have the space to hold onto it any more. It is a large-ish and heavy box of various interesting geek/computing/coding type books which gets taken to the bigger meetings (not usually pub nights). These are books which have been donated by members of Alug present and past. There is also a little notebook wherein is inscribed in letters of ballpoint the names of those borrowing any books, which books they borrowed, the date they borrowed them and a contact detail or two. There is ample scope for whoever takes over to put the whole thing on a web page, use software to organise it all, etc etc, we use the box and the notebook as it has been simplest that way for us. If you have space in a cupboard, room in the boot of your car, a tendency to go to the bigger meetings, and benevolence towards Alug in your heart, would you please consider giving the library a new home? Our storage space is now at a premium, so even a temporary home would be gratefully accepted. /Kirsten
On Monday 06 December 2004 9:50 pm, Kirsten Naylor wrote:
Hi,
Who would like/would be willing/can be persuaded to take over the Alug library?
I would happily take it over but I should be considered a last resort / temporary home, as I don't ever seem to get to attend any of the meetings. But if a temporary guardian is needed or nobody else offers then I would do it. (you never know it may even provide an incentive for me to make more of an effort to attend a meeting).
On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 22:22 +0000, Wayne Stallwood wrote:
I would happily take it over but I should be considered a last resort / temporary home, as I don't ever seem to get to attend any of the meetings.
But if a temporary guardian is needed or nobody else offers then I would do it. (you never know it may even provide an incentive for me to make more of an effort to attend a meeting).
Thank you sooo much Wayne. In the absence of anybody else stepping forward (BigJohn? MJR? Keith? anyone?) we would be very grateful to take you up on your offer. It's very much appreciated. I don't know when the next big meeting will be, but hopefully we can arrange a handover at that point. (Unless of course we turn out to be living conveniently close enough to one another to do a drop off.) /Kirsten
On 2004-12-11 21:42:55 +0000 Kirsten Naylor <wildduck@wildduck.org.uk> wrote:
Thank you sooo much Wayne. In the absence of anybody else stepping forward (BigJohn? MJR? Keith? anyone?) we would be very grateful to take you up on your offer. It's very much appreciated.
Sorry, there's no room at the inn^H^H^Hoffice right now. My "spare" space is occupied by a few thousand AFFS leaflets and lots of paper about the Walks in King's Lynn (O! The irony! How many trees have the council sent to their death already in planning this ill-considered project? URL below) -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and not of any group I know Creative copyleft computing - http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ Unsolicited attachments to the pipex address deleted Will HLF fund tree-killings? http://www.thewalks.co.uk/
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Sorry, there's no room at the inn^H^H^Hoffice right now. My "spare" space is occupied by a few thousand AFFS leaflets and lots of paper about the Walks in King's Lynn (O! The irony! How many trees have the council sent to their death already in planning this ill-considered project? URL below)
Making paper from trees makes ecological sense, and recycling waste paper doesn't make so much. In order to grow trees for paper, seedlings have to be planted out to grow into paper trees. Young wood converts proportionately more carbon dioxide than mature trees. Recycling paper uses almost as much energy as making from wood, (when you take into consideration the people who drive to the collection-points, the collections of those 'deposits', and the subsequent sorting and processing. And because of the amount of recycling which goes on, less trees are planted... Now, if waste paper were converted to fuel pellets, that would contribute (slightly) to the reduction in the burning of unrenewables (in a sensible timescale, anyway) such as oil and gas. <mode="ducks and weaves away" speed="fast"> Of course, when everyone has computers, there will be little need for paper, innit. </mode> -- Tony http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ The only way to tell when a Finn is in love with you is that they look at your feet instead of their own.
On 2004-12-13 14:35:03 +0000 Anthony Anson <tony.anson@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
Making paper from trees makes ecological sense, and recycling waste paper doesn't make so much.
I think you're missing the released carbon from processing newly-felled trees and the soil disturbances between tree felling and new tree planting. Of course, there are traps in recycling (if you have to drive it somewhere, combine it with another journey), but it's still worth doing. Burning for fuel is still good, but less good. If you've references, I'm interested, but maybe we should move this to social@lists.alug.org.uk? -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and not of any group I know Creative copyleft computing - http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ Unsolicited attachments to the pipex address deleted Will HLF fund tree-killings? http://www.thewalks.co.uk/
The message <55fc8a5c601f9b27a89e65c85032acda@bouncing.localnet> from MJ Ray <mjr@dsl.pipex.com> contains these words: /recycling paper/
If you've references, I'm interested, but maybe we should move this to social@lists.alug.org.uk?
I'm not organised enough to have references - I'm a Sheddi innit. -- Tony http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ The only way to tell when a Finn is in love with you is that they look at your feet instead of their own.
On Monday 06 December 2004 9:50 pm, Kirsten Naylor wrote:
Hi,
Who would like/would be willing/can be persuaded to take over the Alug library?
Or how about a distrubuted system, each member holds one book and we maintain a database of who has each book. In order to borrow a book you either have to have one of the existing books in the distrubuted collection or you have to donate a book to the collection by posting (or passing) it to the person that holds the book you want to borrow, you then become the guardian of that book until someone else needs it and the old guardian now holds your book. Or is that too complicated ?
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 10:25:44PM +0000, Wayne Stallwood wrote:
Or is that too complicated ?
Unworkable imho, as you need nasty librarians with sticks to tell people what to do with books and when. Also it just gets very complicated, Alug has suffered a bit in the past when who had which book got out of track (this was before we took the library over again) and tracking them all down again took quite a bit of legwork. Adam -- jabberid = quinophex@jabber.earth.li AFFS || http://www.affs.org.uk/ || Not a filesystem
we could create a micro chip tagging system, to keep track of all borrowers, (not the ones like Ian Holm, the other kind) the tags could contain information on books borrowed, credit history, blood type, and be linked to GPS. Or would that be over engineering compared to a box and a biro? Not to mention a little biblical and apocryphal. Forget I even suggested it. Rick Look into my eyes, the eyes the eyes, not around the eyes. >From: adam@thebowery.co.uk >To: main@lists.alug.org.uk >Subject: Re: [ALUG] Urgent - kind new home required! >Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 22:40:58 +0000 > >On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 10:25:44PM +0000, Wayne Stallwood wrote: > > > > Or is that too complicated ? > >Unworkable imho, as you need nasty librarians with sticks to tell people >what to do with books and when. Also it just gets very complicated, Alug >has suffered a bit in the past when who had which book got out of track >(this was before we took the library over again) and tracking them all >down again took quite a bit of legwork. > >Adam >-- >jabberid = quinophex@jabber.earth.li >AFFS || http://www.affs.org.uk/ || Not a filesystem > >_______________________________________________ >main@lists.alug.org.uk >http://www.alug.org.uk/ >http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main >Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above!
Ricky Bruce wrote:
we could create a micro chip tagging system, to keep track of all borrowers, (not the ones like Ian Holm, the other kind) the tags could contain information on books borrowed, credit history, blood type, and be linked to GPS. Or would that be over engineering compared to a box and a biro? Not to mention a little biblical and apocryphal.
Forget I even suggested it.
You are David Blunkett, and I claim my five pounds. ;-) -------------------------------- I'm getting pissed for xmas, just like the rest of the year, There's no future in this world of ours, so I might as well have a beer.
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