Hi I seem to be getting an ever increasing number of requests for Linux details from people.usually ordinary home /office users The people concerned are able to install it themselves, but the main problem is they are using the supplied modem - Speedtouch USB Can anyboy recommend a cheap Modem/Router which will work straight out of the box for Linux? Most of the users quickly give up when they find they cannot get straight onto the internet, those who do usually stay converted
Regards Nick Daniels
Many thanks for your help during the year
On Friday 24 December 2004 9:33 am, Nick Daniels wrote:
Hi I seem to be getting an ever increasing number of requests for Linux details from people.usually ordinary home /office users The people concerned are able to install it themselves, but the main problem is they are using the supplied modem - Speedtouch USB Can anyboy recommend a cheap Modem/Router which will work straight out of the box for Linux? Most of the users quickly give up when they find they cannot get straight onto the internet, those who do usually stay converted
The speedtouch never used to be that hard to get working, usually after a bit of head scratching I had mine operational. That said they recently changed the hardware revision and the later ones can be a royal pain.
I was happily using my first gen (blue frog) Speedtouch right up until I moved over to a 64bit kernel (couldn't get it to work then though)
But IMO USB ADSL Modems (including the speedtouch) are all pretty awful.
Almost any Broadband ADSL router should do the job. Personally I tend to naturally veer towards Linksys kit, but given that they all have a web interface for configuration (and I am yet to encounter one so broken it couldn't be administered from a non IE browser) pretty much anything should do.
Some of the really cheap ones seem to suffer stability issues, but then so do some of the expensive ones. Running them in NAT mode gives you an extra layer of protection.
Be warned that some broadband routers don't actually include the ADSL modem bit, they are simply a NAT router whose WAN port is ethernet. Make sure that what you are buying actually says it's an ADSL Broadband Router.
On Friday 24 December 2004 9:33 am, Nick Daniels wrote:
Hi I seem to be getting an ever increasing number of requests for Linux details from people.usually ordinary home /office users The people concerned are able to install it themselves, but the main problem is they are using the supplied modem - Speedtouch USB Can anyboy recommend a cheap Modem/Router which will work straight out of the box for Linux? Most of the users quickly give up when they find they cannot get straight onto the internet, those who do usually stay converted
Many thanks for all the suggestions, I have passed details of all the models you have suggested to the respective people. Perhaps I should have pointed out that the Total Cost of Ownership of a new modem is less than that of windows? Best Regards - Nick Daniels
On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 09:33:04AM +0000, Nick Daniels wrote:
I seem to be getting an ever increasing number of requests for Linux details from people.usually ordinary home /office users
The people concerned are able to install it themselves, but the main problem is they are using the supplied modem - Speedtouch USB
Can anyboy recommend a cheap Modem/Router which will work straight out of the box for Linux?
I'm using the Speedtouch myself and find it ok, but faffing around with firmware certainly isn't the easiest thing for someone new to Linux.
At least 3 list members have Netgear DG834Gs I believe - ADSL/lan/wireless router things that actually run Linux but are consumer friendly.
A friend has the Linksys WAG54G (IIRC) and doesn't like it - the Linksys kit that doesn't have a built in ADSL modem is said to be nice though, but not what you're looking for here.
J.
-----Original Message----- From: main-admin@lists.alug.org.uk [mailto:main-admin@lists.alug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Jonathan McDowell Sent: 24 December 2004 10:59 To: main@lists.alug.org.uk Subject: Re: [ALUG] Modem/Router recommendation
On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 09:33:04AM +0000, Nick Daniels wrote:
I seem to be getting an ever increasing number of requests for Linux details from people.usually ordinary home /office users
The people concerned are able to install it themselves, but the main problem is they are using the supplied modem - Speedtouch USB
Can anyboy recommend a cheap Modem/Router which will work straight out of the box for Linux?
I'm using the Speedtouch myself and find it ok, but faffing around with firmware certainly isn't the easiest thing for someone new to Linux.
At least 3 list members have Netgear DG834Gs I believe - ADSL/lan/wireless router things that actually run Linux but are consumer friendly.
A friend has the Linksys WAG54G (IIRC) and doesn't like it - the Linksys kit that doesn't have a built in ADSL modem is said to be nice though, but not what you're looking for here.
J.
-- "Bother," said Pooh, as he was buried alive.
I am using one of those Netgear DG834G routers and it is extremely easy to set up using the web interface with a non Microsoft browser. I know others on the list are using the same and it seems pretty stable with the latest firmware upgrade.
Cheers, BJ
Nick Daniels wrote:
Hi I seem to be getting an ever increasing number of requests for Linux details from people.usually ordinary home /office users The people concerned are able to install it themselves, but the main problem is they are using the supplied modem - Speedtouch USB Can anyboy recommend a cheap Modem/Router which will work straight out of the box for Linux? Most of the users quickly give up when they find they cannot get straight onto the internet, those who do usually stay converted
We tend to use Linksys kit, especially the WAG54G even if there's no requirement for wireless (they support 5 VPN end-points, which is a big plus) but for a straight ADSL modem with no frills, I suggest you steer clear of the conexant-based ones (MRI, Dabs, etc) which have been nothing but trouble. We use the addon-tech ones which are pretty cheap (about £35) which we source from microtec99 (http://www.microtec99.com): ask for Vanessa.
IME the USB ones are utter shite.
Cheers, Laurie.
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:33:04 +0000, Nick Daniels nick@danielsn.freeserve.co.uk wrote:
The people concerned are able to install it
themselves, but the main problem is they are using the supplied modem - Speedtouch USB Can anyboy recommend a cheap Modem/Router which will work straight out of the box for Linux?
Yes, I can recommend the Speedtouch Ethernet ADSL modem instead as it is just as easy to setup on any computer with an Ethernet port, an OS that does DHCP and a web browser to configure the ADSL side. And if it doesn't do DHCP it's not hard to read the manual to set the computer side of the settings by hand
Definately make sure the device they get does NAT.
Tim.