Hi all,
The list admins are getting lots of messages saying this:-
From: Mail Sieve Subsystem postmaster@messagingengine.com To: main-admin@lists.alug.org.uk Subject: Automatically rejected mail
It looks like someone has subscribed to some kind of filtering by messagingengine.com, which means for every mail that goes to the list the main-admins get a reject notice. If by any chance you know who is using this system then if you can let me or them know that would be great, (or indeed if you are that person and are reading this mail elsewhere then please make it stop!). Any (quick+easy) suggestions of how to track down the person whose mail setup is causing these would be most useful.
Oh, and messagingengine.com sucks, as going through the headers I can't find any info on which email address the mail was destined for in the first place as it appears to only look reference the body of the email and not the envelope or delivery addresses :(
Thanks Adam
Why not just block it? Anyone who's using such a system deserves what they get. Oh, and report messagingengine.com as sending spam to someone like SpamCop while you're at it. Bearing in mind that it could be a virus with a forged from of main-admin@lists.alug.org.uk and I think you'll see where I'm coming from.
Matt
adam@thebowery.co.uk wrote:
Hi all,
The list admins are getting lots of messages saying this:-
From: Mail Sieve Subsystem postmaster@messagingengine.com To: main-admin@lists.alug.org.uk Subject: Automatically rejected mail
It looks like someone has subscribed to some kind of filtering by messagingengine.com, which means for every mail that goes to the list the main-admins get a reject notice. If by any chance you know who is using this system then if you can let me or them know that would be great, (or indeed if you are that person and are reading this mail elsewhere then please make it stop!). Any (quick+easy) suggestions of how to track down the person whose mail setup is causing these would be most useful.
Oh, and messagingengine.com sucks, as going through the headers I can't find any info on which email address the mail was destined for in the first place as it appears to only look reference the body of the email and not the envelope or delivery addresses :(
Thanks Adam
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 09:31:06AM +0000, Matt Parker wrote:
Why not just block it? Anyone who's using such a system deserves what they get. Oh, and report messagingengine.com as sending spam to someone like SpamCop while you're at it. Bearing in mind that it could be a virus with a forged from of main-admin@lists.alug.org.uk and I think you'll see where I'm coming from.
I want to work out who is using the system so that I can block it, thats the problem I can't tell which of the email addresses subscribed to the list is using the messagingengine.com service....
The only options I have come up with so far would be to write a script to test every email address individually with a unique id etc. to find which one is using messagingengine.com and then block that address.
Adam
adam@thebowery.co.uk wrote:
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 09:31:06AM +0000, Matt Parker wrote:
Why not just block it? Anyone who's using such a system deserves what they get. Oh, and report messagingengine.com as sending spam to someone like SpamCop while you're at it. Bearing in mind that it could be a virus with a forged from of main-admin@lists.alug.org.uk and I think you'll see where I'm coming from.
I want to work out who is using the system so that I can block it, thats the problem I can't tell which of the email addresses subscribed to the list is using the messagingengine.com service....
The only options I have come up with so far would be to write a script to test every email address individually with a unique id etc. to find which one is using messagingengine.com and then block that address.
Adam
I meant to block messagingengine.com so you don't get the bounces.
Matt
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 09:50:39AM +0000, Matt Parker wrote:
adam@thebowery.co.uk wrote:
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 09:31:06AM +0000, Matt Parker wrote:
Why not just block it? Anyone who's using such a system deserves what they get. Oh, and report messagingengine.com as sending spam to someone like SpamCop while you're at it. Bearing in mind that it could be a virus with a forged from of main-admin@lists.alug.org.uk and I think you'll see where I'm coming from.
I want to work out who is using the system so that I can block it, thats the problem I can't tell which of the email addresses subscribed to the list is using the messagingengine.com service....
The only options I have come up with so far would be to write a script to test every email address individually with a unique id etc. to find which one is using messagingengine.com and then block that address.
Adam
I meant to block messagingengine.com so you don't get the bounces.
That is not a solution, and doesn't inform the recipient that they're losing e-mail because of this service. It stops crap appearing in the admins mailboxes, yes, but as it's list posts getting rejected, it'd be better to find out who has the service and thusly causing the bounces.
Thanks,
Brett Parker wrote:
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 09:50:39AM +0000, Matt Parker wrote:
adam@thebowery.co.uk wrote:
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 09:31:06AM +0000, Matt Parker wrote:
Why not just block it? Anyone who's using such a system deserves what they get. Oh, and report messagingengine.com as sending spam to someone like SpamCop while you're at it. Bearing in mind that it could be a virus with a forged from of main-admin@lists.alug.org.uk and I think you'll see where I'm coming from.
I want to work out who is using the system so that I can block it, thats the problem I can't tell which of the email addresses subscribed to the list is using the messagingengine.com service....
The only options I have come up with so far would be to write a script to test every email address individually with a unique id etc. to find which one is using messagingengine.com and then block that address.
Adam
I meant to block messagingengine.com so you don't get the bounces.
That is not a solution, and doesn't inform the recipient that they're losing e-mail because of this service. It stops crap appearing in the admins mailboxes, yes, but as it's list posts getting rejected, it'd be better to find out who has the service and thusly causing the bounces.
Thanks,
No. Anyone stupid enough to be using a system whereby bounces are sent to the from address (forgeable) deserves to lose mail. They don't deserve the effort to which Adam is intending to use to find out who they are. Bounces should ONLY ever be sent from one mail server to another at the SMTP level. Anything else generates spam through forged from addresses with people receiving bounces to e-mails they never sent.
Matt
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 09:50:39AM +0000, Matt Parker wrote:
I meant to block messagingengine.com so you don't get the bounces.
Matt
My point is how would I block them? the only point that I can block them is after I have collected my email and it is sitting on my machine. It doesn't really fix the problem, just moves it somewhere else also other admins would have to implement a similar kind of block on their email.
What I want is a solution to the problem, but it is looking like I am going to have to write a script to check each address subscribed to the alug list :(
Adam
adam@thebowery.co.uk wrote:
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 09:50:39AM +0000, Matt Parker wrote:
I meant to block messagingengine.com so you don't get the bounces.
Matt
My point is how would I block them? the only point that I can block them is after I have collected my email and it is sitting on my machine. It doesn't really fix the problem, just moves it somewhere else also other admins would have to implement a similar kind of block on their email.
What I want is a solution to the problem, but it is looking like I am going to have to write a script to check each address subscribed to the alug list :(
Adam
Block them at the ALUG mailing list mail server that redirects the mail-admin e-mail address.
Matt
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