Evening all, I'm just playing with my new morphix install and was wondering if you lot could answer a couple of questions (one strange and one vague)? The strange question is whether it's possible to halt apt-get when it's downloading stuff without losing what's already been downloaded? Until I get hooked up with broadband I'm on a dialup with a 2 hour cutoff which sort of limits what I can download in that time. I'm just looking for a way around it... The vague question is that morphix doesn't install any of the header files so it's a bit of a bugger trying to compile anything from source. So far I've had to try googling 'stdio.h' or whatever to try and work out what package it's in. Can someone tell me some of the most likely dev packages I'll need (see, told you it was vague) or possibly a better way of locating them myself? ta muchly, BenE (This debian lark is much harder than compiling everything from scatch <g>)
stdio.h is part of libc-dev - http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_contents is a usefull way of finding this stuff out.. If you're planning on compiling anything against the kernel headers, you'll need to bug the developer of the base module for the specific headers. If this is the official Morphix base, then that would be alextreme who is found lurking on irc.freenode.net #morphix Regards, Paul. On Wednesday 20 August 2003 10:04 pm, BenEBoy wrote:
The vague question is that morphix doesn't install any of the header files so it's a bit of a bugger trying to compile anything from source. So far I've had to try googling 'stdio.h' or whatever to try and work out what package it's in. Can someone tell me some of the most likely dev packages I'll need (see, told you it was vague) or possibly a better way of locating them myself?
-- "To err is human...to really f*** things up requires the root password."
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 09:04:58PM +0000, BenEBoy wrote:
Evening all,
I'm just playing with my new morphix install and was wondering if you lot could answer a couple of questions (one strange and one vague)?
The strange question is whether it's possible to halt apt-get when it's downloading stuff without losing what's already been downloaded? Until I get hooked up with broadband I'm on a dialup with a 2 hour cutoff which sort of limits what I can download in that time. I'm just looking for a way around it...
apt-get on debian caches the downloaded (and partially downloaded) packages in /var/cache/apt/archives you can look and see if morphix does it also I guess. Adam -- jabberid = quinophex@jabber.earth.li AFFS || http://www.affs.org.uk/ || Not a filesystem
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 8:42 pm, abower@thebowery.co.uk wrote:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 09:04:58PM +0000, BenEBoy wrote:
Evening all,
I'm just playing with my new morphix install and was wondering if you lot could answer a couple of questions (one strange and one vague)?
The strange question is whether it's possible to halt apt-get when it's downloading stuff without losing what's already been downloaded? Until I get hooked up with broadband I'm on a dialup with a 2 hour cutoff which sort of limits what I can download in that time. I'm just looking for a way around it...
apt-get on debian caches the downloaded (and partially downloaded) packages in /var/cache/apt/archives you can look and see if morphix does it also I guess.
Adam
Cheers, that also answered another question I had about where apt stuck the stuff it downloaded :-) I'm very impressed so far. The speed reduction is taking a while to get used to, especially booting but I expect thats partially due to all the unecessary services it starts. Time to start stripping stuff out of /etc/rc.d/* I think. Apt is a godsend, although I'm missing the slightly hypnotic gcc messages scrolling up the teminal when I install something.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 09:57:34PM +0000, BenEBoy wrote:
I'm very impressed so far. The speed reduction is taking a while to get used to, especially booting but I expect thats partially due to all the unecessary services it starts. Time to start stripping stuff out of /etc/rc.d/* I think. Apt is a godsend, although I'm missing the slightly hypnotic gcc messages scrolling up the teminal when I install something.
Do it the proper way instead of using rm if you have to. Anyhow on the speed issue http://articles.linmagau.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index... enjoy Adam -- jabberid = quinophex@jabber.earth.li AFFS || http://www.affs.org.uk/ || Not a filesystem
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 9:01 pm, abower@thebowery.co.uk wrote:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 09:57:34PM +0000, BenEBoy wrote:
I'm very impressed so far. The speed reduction is taking a while to get used to, especially booting but I expect thats partially due to all the unecessary services it starts. Time to start stripping stuff out of /etc/rc.d/* I think. Apt is a godsend, although I'm missing the slightly hypnotic gcc messages scrolling up the teminal when I install something.
Do it the proper way instead of using rm if you have to. Anyhow on the speed issue http://articles.linmagau.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=inde x&req=viewarticle&artid=227&page=1
There's a proper way? I must pull out 'running linux' and read up on that <g> Regarding speed, my old LFS system used to go from power on (OK, from lilo prompt) to GUI in about 20-25 seconds (rough guesstimate & not including logging on or typing 'startx'). Yes, morphix is completely different with KDM & KDE loading as opposed to fluxbox, not to mention the depency checking I think debian does at startup. Once logged in, everything runs at *about* the same speed from what I can tell. I've just installed firebird so the major slowdown I've been having with konqueror is gone now (It was taking about a minute to load in the front page of the register as opposed to ohhhh seconds with firebird). BenE
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 21:04:58 +0000 BenEBoy <mail@psychoferret.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
The strange question is whether it's possible to halt apt-get when it's downloading stuff without losing what's already been downloaded? Until I get hooked up with broadband I'm on a dialup with a 2 hour cutoff which sort of limits what I can download in that time. I'm just looking for a way around it...
not a problem, I have a dial up link and do it all the time. apt just seems to pick up where it left off. How about this one though? Is it possible to do an apt-get upgrade on one system (with a fast link) and just download the deb files and then put them on a slower system and do the apt-get upgrade there without it trying to download the lot a 2nd time? Keith
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 07:40:42PM +0100, Keith Watson wrote:
How about this one though? Is it possible to do an apt-get upgrade on one system (with a fast link) and just download the deb files and then put them on a slower system and do the apt-get upgrade there without it trying to download the lot a 2nd time?
Yup, used to do that all the time. You could also look at apt-cacher if you have a few systems. (apt-cache show apt-cacher) Adam -- jabberid = quinophex@jabber.earth.li AFFS || http://www.affs.org.uk/ || Not a filesystem
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Keith Watson wrote:
How about this one though? Is it possible to do an apt-get upgrade on one system (with a fast link) and just download the deb files and then put them on a slower system and do the apt-get upgrade there without it trying to download the lot a 2nd time?
For the first part, I think you need apt-get --download-only. IIRC, it puts the deb files in whatever the current directory happens to be at the time. If you can make this directory look like a local directory on the second machine, you can then install the packages on that machine by putting that directory as a file:// source in /etc/apt/sources.list, and creating up a packages file for apt to look at. Ways of doing this were discussed in an ALUG thread called "apt setup help" in March of this year. -- Dan Hatton <http://www.bib.hatton.btinternet.co.uk/dan/>
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