On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 03:25:16PM +0000, Jonathan McDowell wrote
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 06:48:13AM +0000, John Seago wrote something that was in reply to an existing thread, but lacked In-Reply-To or References headers.
Can you fix your email client please? I originally thought KMail (which is what your headers claim you're using) was broken, but there are other ALUGers using it without breaking threads. It's much easier to read lists when associated posts are kept together in my experience.
I am indeed using Kmail, in fact the Kmail which comes with the KDE in Slackware 10.1 and I believe, Debian Sarge, both of which are installed on my computer.
It's been pointed out to you that you might be reading via a digest,
Where, when and by whom?
in which case at least one of the digest options removes message ids. Is there any chance you'd consider switching to a MIME based digest (which I think should preserve a Message-Id header) or individual posts?
You are right in assuming that I am reading, and writing in reply to, everything in the form of a daily digest, and, I had assumed, in plain text. I have, however, had a look at the seetings which inform me that there are two options MIME Compliant (Quoted Printable), which is the option set, or Allow 8 bit.
There is a third possibility, I am broken, at waist level, and suffer from chronic pain. In the winter, when the pain is usually at its worst, I take quantities of drugs which have either been withdrawn from issue to new patients, fall into Class A, or are addictive. I had a bad year last year, and this cold winter has not improved matters. Pain and drugs diminish what little remaining intellect I had. so it may be that whilst I can remeber something, I will have difficulty in reading back to find it, sometimes such activity can be quite entertaining with the individual letters doing tiller girl routines across the page. I am, for about an hour after the regular doses, until they start to wear off about five to seven hours later, likely to be higher than a kite, either that or I am asleep. which is why you may find messages timed at 03.00 hrs as drugs have worn off before they were due to, and I am reading and replying to mail, until such time as I can have the next dose.
Perhaps you could solve other problems I have with Digests, the FSFE digest arrives with each digest dated <Thu Jan 1 00:59:59 1970>.
Hi John
I am (un)fortunate in that I am able to use one of several smtp servers for my out going emails - Primarily due to the occasional and annoying outages that my ISP inflict on me.. One of the servers spits back an error message if I try to send in "8 bit", so I *have* to use "MIME Compliant" with that one.
It hasn't brought any condemnations so far, so I don't give it any thought. As for the "In Reply To" headers, there are plenty of other problems in the world to be worring about replys being "properly threaded"....
IOW You keep taking the pills, as long as the Subject and From headers are correct, it doesn't bother me what the other headers say.
Regards, Paul.
On Thursday 03 March 2005 07:31, John Seago wrote:
You are right in assuming that I am reading, and writing in reply to, everything in the form of a daily digest, and, I had assumed, in plain text. I have, however, had a look at the seetings which inform me that there are two options MIME Compliant (Quoted Printable), which is the option set, or Allow 8 bit.
The message 200503031055.32927.bdi-emc@ntlworld.com from Paul bdi-emc@ntlworld.com contains these words:
I am (un)fortunate in that I am able to use one of several smtp servers for my out going emails - Primarily due to the occasional and annoying outages that my ISP inflict on me.. One of the servers spits back an error message if I try to send in "8 bit", so I *have* to use "MIME Compliant" with that one.
/snip/
NTL has gone up in my estimation.
Mail is a 7-bit environment. (For better or for worse.)