On Monday 28 February 2005 15:46, Peter Hunter wrote:

Now what I need to do is to put KMail in my startup folder so as to get it to start up - minimised if possible - when the computer starts up. I know that this won't actually be called a 'start up' folder, but what is it called? and where do I find it?

On my systems (KDE3.3 on SuSE 9.1 and KDE3.2 on Fedora Core 2), if I shut the system down with KMail open it comes right back up where it was left, when I reboot. Same with many other programs, particularly the KDE family ones. -- GT

On Monday 28 February 2005 20:28, beb wrote:

Graham wrote:

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On my systems (KDE3.3 on SuSE 9.1 and KDE3.2 on Fedora Core 2), if I shut the system down with KMail open it comes right back up where it was left, when I reboot. Same with many other programs, particularly the KDE family ones.

That's one way of doing it (sort of). Another way is to...

$ cat ~/.kde/Autostart/kmail kstart --iconify kmail

$ chmod +x ~/.kde/Autostart/kmail

(Which I didn't shamelessly steal from a website, honest)

beb

I noted the slightly sniffy tone ;) and agree my solution lacks ambition, merely allowing the default behaviour to take over. I've not looked into kstart before but a little browsing turned up http://xmelegance.org/customising-window-behaviour/html/customising-window-b... which covers kstart and ksystray and has helped plug a few holes in my leaky knowledge bucket. -- GT

~/.kde/Autostart - Copy KMail.desktop here, and it *should* fire up on each session. The file is in usr/share/applications/kde on my Debian install, but this could be different on your box. Regards, Paul. On Monday 28 February 2005 15:46, Peter Hunter wrote:

Now what I need to do is to put KMail in my startup folder so as to get it to start up - minimised if possible - when the computer starts up. I know that this won't actually be called a 'start up' folder, but what is it called? and where do I find it?

-- Pieces of seven, pieces of seven - A parroty error. "To err is human...to really f*** things up requires the root password." From a collection of quotes at http://www.indigo.org/quotes.html

Peter Hunter wrote:

I now have another problem that I fear cannot be resolved!!

I have a Lexmark X85 all-in-one printer/scanner/copier. This works fine on the MS machine, works as a printer only on the Mac, but how do I get it to work on the Linux under SUSE 9.2 in KDE 3.3?

A question and a suggestion. Q. What are you using to print - lpring or CUPS? S. Go to linuxprinting.org an tpe in your make/model number and see if it is supported and how to get it going. Ian -- Ian T-Bell aka RuffRecords aka RedTommo

Thanks Paul, and Ian. I went to the linuxprinting.org site, but it wasn't much help in my case as they don't have my machine listed. They do have a couple of others though, the X75 and X125 which are very much the same. However, they only have a limited driver for the printer but with no scanner driver. I'm getting a Brother HL 1430 next week Paul, and I have checked to see that SUSE has list machine listed, so hopefully it'll install ok. When I can afford it I'll either get a Brother or HP all in one, or (more likely) another colour printer and scanner for use on the Mac and Linux machines. In the mean time I'll do my scanning via the Windows box. It's a pain but at least I can print my photos on the Mac. I'm still learning, and finding out things very fast. So who knows, in time I may be able to understand some of this!! Cheers all, Peter On Friday 04 March 2005 17:16, Paul wrote:

Hi Peter

I would suggest writing a strong letter to the CEO of lexmark asking why, after spending good money on a printer, that it is only supported to two minor operating systems... Then I would look at the Brother laser range, or HP's all-in-one machines. The latter would need to be double checked against the compatabilty database.. The HP G85 certainly does work both as a scanner and a printer, although somewhat expensive to run..

Regards, Paul.

On Friday 04 March 2005 16:42, Peter Hunter wrote:

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I can only assume that this particular printer won't actually work under Linux. If that is the case, can anyone recommend a relatively cheap printer that will work?

On Friday 04 March 2005 5:16 pm, Paul wrote:

The HP G85 certainly does work both as a scanner and a printer, although somewhat expensive to run..

The G85 certainly was a good model and better built than the later MFP's. However it is no longer a current model and most of the ones on the 2nd hand market are looking a bit tired now. you can also look for the G65 which is the same thing without the Fax. If you are in posession of one of these (or pick up a used one) I have a word of warning. There is a design fault in the Head cleaning waste tank, on very heavily used printers this tank can overflow through a drive shaft opening in the side, It can also leak if the printer is tipped during transport or stored in non horizontal plane. Doing so will possibly destroy the printer as once the ink has leaked into the separate motor that runs the head cleaner (told you they were well built) it ceases to function. These parts are no longer available from HP without purchasing the Head cleaner assembly complete (which costs more than the printer is worth). Also the ink stains almost anything in a very permanent fashion (proof of this can be seen in the boot of my car) and a disturbing amount ends up in the waste tank on a hard working printer (or not if you tip it)

On Monday 28 February 2005 3:46 pm, Peter Hunter wrote:

One interesting point I found. After setting up all of my email accounts (well, both of them anyway) I then setup the message Rules (Filters). I couldn't help noticing that the process was almost identical to the Mac OS X process, which made life easy.

This is very true, KDE used to be following a Windows look and feel, but more recently it has been inspired by OSX. In fact if you get as bored as I have done in the past, the right themes and effects can easily be applied to make it look almost identical. My only complaint about the whole look and feel of KDE and it's associated apps is the Logout applet, they really need to loose that Dragon !!

On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 02:11:59AM +0000, Anthony Anson wrote:

The message <200502282244.10413.ALUGlist@digimatic.plus.com> from Wayne Stallwood <ALUGlist@digimatic.plus.com> contains these words:

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My only complaint about the whole look and feel of KDE and it's associated apps is the Logout applet, they really need to loose that Dragon !!

Loosing dragons is contrary to the terms of the Countryside and Wildlife Act.

I'd have thought that dragons on the loose are a bit dodgy! .... oh, you meant lose, ........ -- Chris Green (chris@areti.co.uk) "Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence."

Tony claimed:

Loosing dragons is contrary to the terms of the Countryside and Wildlife Act.

You can always: 1. not look properly and then claim there were no dragons on your land to start with, so you didn't loose them; 2. put some "mitigation" measures in place that are enough to get past the overly-relaxed officials and hope that the local wildlife trust doesn't have enough members that feel strongly about loose dragons; 3. claim that it's in the overriding public interest anyway and that you have "broad unanimous support" even if you've not asked many people since you announced you were loosing dragons; 4. ask a scrutiny committee to look at it, based solely on a report what you wrote yourself. </rant> Wildly OT, replies to me please. -- MJR/slef What the heck was that about? See http://www.thewalks.co.uk/ I see they tried to chop down the Swaffham market trees at 6am on a Sunday morning again, but were frustrated by parked cars!