From: David Reynolds Sent: 28 February 2005 14:27
Basically need. I need a server OS capable of doing what Linux does, but my desktop/laptop machines came with Windows on. Seems pointless to wipe and reload when Windows does the job.
I felt the same, but on moving to Linux my productivity has increased quite a lot. Especially when it comes to uploading files to servers, using version control such as SVN.
mmmmmmmmm... SVN!!
:o)
Keith
Having successfully made a copy of the /etc/ folder (plus some other stuff) onto a CD (well, all I did was to write click the folder, select Actions, and then select 'make a data CD with K3b. The rest was virtually done for me). I then went searching and experimenting a bit more.
Now what I need to do is to put KMail in my startup folder so as to get it to start up - minimised if possible - when the computer starts up. I know that this won't actually be called a 'start up' folder, but what is it called? and where do I find it?
One interesting point I found. After setting up all of my email accounts (well, both of them anyway) I then setup the message Rules (Filters). I couldn't help noticing that the process was almost identical to the Mac OS X process, which made life easy.
Thats all for now. Interesting about the 'KitMeetings' wish I could get along. Hope you have fun.
Cheers for now
Peter
On Monday 28 February 2005 15:46, Peter Hunter wrote:
Now what I need to do is to put KMail in my startup folder so as to get it to start up - minimised if possible - when the computer starts up. I know that this won't actually be called a 'start up' folder, but what is it called? and where do I find it?
On my systems (KDE3.3 on SuSE 9.1 and KDE3.2 on Fedora Core 2), if I shut the system down with KMail open it comes right back up where it was left, when I reboot. Same with many other programs, particularly the KDE family ones.
-- GT
Graham wrote:
On Monday 28 February 2005 15:46, Peter Hunter wrote:
Now what I need to do is to put KMail in my startup folder so as to get it to start up - minimised if possible - when the computer starts up. I know that this won't actually be called a 'start up' folder, but what is it called? and where do I find it?
On my systems (KDE3.3 on SuSE 9.1 and KDE3.2 on Fedora Core 2), if I shut the system down with KMail open it comes right back up where it was left, when I reboot. Same with many other programs, particularly the KDE family ones.
That's one way of doing it (sort of). Another way is to...
$ cat ~/.kde/Autostart/kmail kstart --iconify kmail
$ chmod +x ~/.kde/Autostart/kmail
(Which I didn't shamelessly steal from a website, honest)
beb
On Monday 28 February 2005 20:28, beb wrote:
Graham wrote:
On my systems (KDE3.3 on SuSE 9.1 and KDE3.2 on Fedora Core 2), if I shut the system down with KMail open it comes right back up where it was left, when I reboot. Same with many other programs, particularly the KDE family ones.
That's one way of doing it (sort of). Another way is to...
$ cat ~/.kde/Autostart/kmail kstart --iconify kmail
$ chmod +x ~/.kde/Autostart/kmail
(Which I didn't shamelessly steal from a website, honest)
beb
I noted the slightly sniffy tone ;) and agree my solution lacks ambition, merely allowing the default behaviour to take over. I've not looked into kstart before but a little browsing turned up
http://xmelegance.org/customising-window-behaviour/html/customising-window-b...
which covers kstart and ksystray and has helped plug a few holes in my leaky knowledge bucket.
-- GT
Graham wrote:
I noted the slightly sniffy tone ;) and agree my solution lacks ambition, merely allowing the default behaviour to take over. I've not looked into kstart before but a little browsing turned up
No sniffy tone was intended as it's how I start apps automatically usually ;-) It's just that if you close kmail and restart then it won't reappear.
beb
~/.kde/Autostart - Copy KMail.desktop here, and it *should* fire up on each session. The file is in usr/share/applications/kde on my Debian install, but this could be different on your box.
Regards, Paul.
On Monday 28 February 2005 15:46, Peter Hunter wrote:
Now what I need to do is to put KMail in my startup folder so as to get it to start up - minimised if possible - when the computer starts up. I know that this won't actually be called a 'start up' folder, but what is it called? and where do I find it?
On Monday 28 February 2005 20:34, Paul wrote:
~/.kde/Autostart - Copy KMail.desktop here, and it *should* fire up on each session. The file is in usr/share/applications/kde on my Debian install, but this could be different on your box.
Regards, Paul.
Hi Paul, and everyone else that replied to my plea for help. This did the trick on this system and is now working fine.
I now have another problem that I fear cannot be resolved!!
I have a Lexmark X85 all-in-one printer/scanner/copier. This works fine on the MS machine, works as a printer only on the Mac, but how do I get it to work on the Linux under SUSE 9.2 in KDE 3.3? I have been through the process of setting up (adding / installing) a printer, and selecting a Lexmark printer. Lexmark do not provide a driver for this printer in Linux, and SUSE only lists the X75 but doesn't actually support it. I have the printer icon on the desktop and can send things TO the printer (e-mails, documents, web pages etc.) but nothing prints (and YES, the printer IS plugged in and switched on!). To the end user (me) it would seem that I am printing something when I do all of this.
I can only assume that this particular printer won't actually work under Linux. If that is the case, can anyone recommend a relatively cheap printer that will work?
Regards
Peter
Peter Hunter wrote:
I now have another problem that I fear cannot be resolved!!
I have a Lexmark X85 all-in-one printer/scanner/copier. This works fine on the MS machine, works as a printer only on the Mac, but how do I get it to work on the Linux under SUSE 9.2 in KDE 3.3?
A question and a suggestion.
Q. What are you using to print - lpring or CUPS?
S. Go to linuxprinting.org an tpe in your make/model number and see if it is supported and how to get it going.
Ian
Hi Peter
I would suggest writing a strong letter to the CEO of lexmark asking why, after spending good money on a printer, that it is only supported to two minor operating systems... Then I would look at the Brother laser range, or HP's all-in-one machines. The latter would need to be double checked against the compatabilty database.. The HP G85 certainly does work both as a scanner and a printer, although somewhat expensive to run..
Regards, Paul.
On Friday 04 March 2005 16:42, Peter Hunter wrote:
I can only assume that this particular printer won't actually work under Linux. If that is the case, can anyone recommend a relatively cheap printer that will work?
Thanks Paul, and Ian. I went to the linuxprinting.org site, but it wasn't much help in my case as they don't have my machine listed. They do have a couple of others though, the X75 and X125 which are very much the same. However, they only have a limited driver for the printer but with no scanner driver.
I'm getting a Brother HL 1430 next week Paul, and I have checked to see that SUSE has list machine listed, so hopefully it'll install ok.
When I can afford it I'll either get a Brother or HP all in one, or (more likely) another colour printer and scanner for use on the Mac and Linux machines. In the mean time I'll do my scanning via the Windows box. It's a pain but at least I can print my photos on the Mac.
I'm still learning, and finding out things very fast. So who knows, in time I may be able to understand some of this!!
Cheers all,
Peter
On Friday 04 March 2005 17:16, Paul wrote:
Hi Peter
I would suggest writing a strong letter to the CEO of lexmark asking why, after spending good money on a printer, that it is only supported to two minor operating systems... Then I would look at the Brother laser range, or HP's all-in-one machines. The latter would need to be double checked against the compatabilty database.. The HP G85 certainly does work both as a scanner and a printer, although somewhat expensive to run..
Regards, Paul.
On Friday 04 March 2005 16:42, Peter Hunter wrote:
I can only assume that this particular printer won't actually work under Linux. If that is the case, can anyone recommend a relatively cheap printer that will work?
On Friday 04 March 2005 17:16, Paul wrote:
I would suggest writing a strong letter to the CEO of lexmark asking why, after spending good money on a printer, that it is only supported to two minor operating systems... Then I would look at the Brother laser range, or HP's all-in-one machines. The latter would need to be double checked against the compatabilty database.. The HP G85 certainly does work both as a scanner and a printer, although somewhat expensive to run..
Regards, Paul.
Seems they haven't changed much. In about 1993/4 I bought a Lexmark printer to run on my Windows 3.11 system. Windows 95 appeared about a year later but Lexmark never provided a driver for the new OS. They won't see me as a customer again.
-- GT
On Friday 04 March 2005 5:16 pm, Paul wrote:
The HP G85 certainly does work both as a scanner and a printer, although somewhat expensive to run..
The G85 certainly was a good model and better built than the later MFP's. However it is no longer a current model and most of the ones on the 2nd hand market are looking a bit tired now. you can also look for the G65 which is the same thing without the Fax.
If you are in posession of one of these (or pick up a used one) I have a word of warning.
There is a design fault in the Head cleaning waste tank, on very heavily used printers this tank can overflow through a drive shaft opening in the side, It can also leak if the printer is tipped during transport or stored in non horizontal plane. Doing so will possibly destroy the printer as once the ink has leaked into the separate motor that runs the head cleaner (told you they were well built) it ceases to function. These parts are no longer available from HP without purchasing the Head cleaner assembly complete (which costs more than the printer is worth).
Also the ink stains almost anything in a very permanent fashion (proof of this can be seen in the boot of my car) and a disturbing amount ends up in the waste tank on a hard working printer (or not if you tip it)
Hi Wayne
As it so happens, I have a G85 sitting here that has probably done less than 100 sheets of print... Still have the original Doze driver CD somewhere in it's original packaging.
Regards, Paul.
P.S. Thanks for the warning about the waste tank..
On Saturday 05 March 2005 00:36, Wayne Stallwood wrote:
The G85 certainly was a good model and better built than the later MFP's. However it is no longer a current model and most of the ones on the 2nd hand market are looking a bit tired now. you can also look for the G65 which is the same thing without the Fax.
On Monday 28 February 2005 3:46 pm, Peter Hunter wrote:
One interesting point I found. After setting up all of my email accounts (well, both of them anyway) I then setup the message Rules (Filters). I couldn't help noticing that the process was almost identical to the Mac OS X process, which made life easy.
This is very true, KDE used to be following a Windows look and feel, but more recently it has been inspired by OSX.
In fact if you get as bored as I have done in the past, the right themes and effects can easily be applied to make it look almost identical.
My only complaint about the whole look and feel of KDE and it's associated apps is the Logout applet, they really need to loose that Dragon !!
The message 200502282244.10413.ALUGlist@digimatic.plus.com from Wayne Stallwood ALUGlist@digimatic.plus.com contains these words:
My only complaint about the whole look and feel of KDE and it's associated apps is the Logout applet, they really need to loose that Dragon !!
Loosing dragons is contrary to the terms of the Countryside and Wildlife Act.
On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 02:11:59AM +0000, Anthony Anson wrote:
The message 200502282244.10413.ALUGlist@digimatic.plus.com from Wayne Stallwood ALUGlist@digimatic.plus.com contains these words:
My only complaint about the whole look and feel of KDE and it's associated apps is the Logout applet, they really need to loose that Dragon !!
Loosing dragons is contrary to the terms of the Countryside and Wildlife Act.
I'd have thought that dragons on the loose are a bit dodgy!
.... oh, you meant lose, ........
The message 20050301084358.GB11809@areti.co.uk from Chris Green chris@areti.co.uk contains these words:
On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 02:11:59AM +0000, Anthony Anson wrote:
The message 200502282244.10413.ALUGlist@digimatic.plus.com from Wayne Stallwood ALUGlist@digimatic.plus.com contains these words:
My only complaint about the whole look and feel of KDE and it's associated apps is the Logout applet, they really need to loose that Dragon !!
Loosing dragons is contrary to the terms of the Countryside and Wildlife Act.
I'd have thought that dragons on the loose are a bit dodgy!
.... oh, you meant lose, ........
I didn't.
Tony claimed:
Loosing dragons is contrary to the terms of the Countryside and Wildlife Act.
You can always:
1. not look properly and then claim there were no dragons on your land to start with, so you didn't loose them;
2. put some "mitigation" measures in place that are enough to get past the overly-relaxed officials and hope that the local wildlife trust doesn't have enough members that feel strongly about loose dragons;
3. claim that it's in the overriding public interest anyway and that you have "broad unanimous support" even if you've not asked many people since you announced you were loosing dragons;
4. ask a scrutiny committee to look at it, based solely on a report what you wrote yourself. </rant>
Wildly OT, replies to me please.