Hi everyone, I hope someone can help me with this. I am running Mandriver LE 2005 with the Gnome desktop. I decided it would be nice to play a dvd, but when I load a dvd movie I get the playing window comes up, and then an error message, which says:
DVD - Error Code
"The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?"
I have done a search for 'libdvdcss' but can't find it, and don't know what it is anyway.
Can anyone help me to solve this problem? and (hopefully) help me to be able to play dvd's.
mtia
Peter
On 8/2/05, Peter Hunter peterslinuxbox@ntlworld.com wrote:
Hi everyone, I hope someone can help me with this. I am running Mandriver LE 2005 with the Gnome desktop. DVD - Error Code "The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?"
A quick google search suggests you need the RPM with libdvdcss, which can be found with instructions for xine here: http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/
Once libdvdcss is installed, other movie players should understand it too.
Good luck! Tim.
On Tuesday 02 August 2005 12:56, Tim Green wrote:
On 8/2/05, Peter Hunter peterslinuxbox@ntlworld.com wrote:
Hi everyone, I hope someone can help me with this. I am running Mandriver LE 2005 with the Gnome desktop. DVD - Error Code "The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?"
A quick google search suggests you need the RPM with libdvdcss, which can be found with instructions for xine here: http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/
Once libdvdcss is installed, other movie players should understand it too.
Good luck! Tim.
I used to use Mandrake/Mandriva before I converted to SuSE. Use this - http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ - and add the PLF (Penguin Liberation Front) source to URPMI. Then you can get other software that may be of questionable legality/patent infringing.
Matt
Hi,
A quick google search suggests you need the RPM with libdvdcss, which can be found with instructions for xine here: http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/
Once libdvdcss is installed, other movie players should understand it too.
I think the reason it wasn't installed should be pointed out. The code for decoding encrypted DVDs (as some are not encrypted, most are, but not all), is closed source and has to be licensed for use. So hence, I believe (and correct me if I'm wrong) that this code is not official and probably illegal to run.
Just pointing this out.
Cheers
Dave
On Tuesday 02 August 2005 13:11, David Reynolds wrote:
Hi,
A quick google search suggests you need the RPM with libdvdcss, which can be found with instructions for xine here: http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/
Once libdvdcss is installed, other movie players should understand it too.
I think the reason it wasn't installed should be pointed out. The code for decoding encrypted DVDs (as some are not encrypted, most are, but not all), is closed source and has to be licensed for use. So hence, I believe (and correct me if I'm wrong) that this code is not official and probably illegal to run.
Just pointing this out.
Cheers
Dave
Actually, I don't believe this is illegal to run in any country other than the US (possibly Australia), though I could be wrong about that. Just that the distro packagers have to be careful since their product is distributed in those countries.
Matt
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 13:17 +0100, Matt Parker wrote:
Actually, I don't believe this is illegal to run in any country other than the US (possibly Australia), though I could be wrong about that. Just that the distro packagers have to be careful since their product is distributed in those countries.
That is pretty much my understanding too, one thing to watch out for is that my copy of Xine on Ubuntu actually wanted libdvdcss2 not libdvdcss (No I am not sure that the difference is either)
Regarding legality I think the main issue is that any open library that was obtained through reverse engineering of the CSS algorithm may be subject to legal issues via the DMCA. This is of course fairly US centric, I think in this country as long as you don't use it as a tool of copyright infringement you are fairly legal.
Wayne Stallwood wrote: snip
Regarding legality I think the main issue is that any open library that was obtained through reverse engineering of the CSS algorithm may be subject to legal issues via the DMCA. This is of course fairly US centric, I think in this country as long as you don't use it as a tool of copyright infringement you are fairly legal.
I think it is primarily a licencing issue. ISTR there is one Linux distro (Lindows?) that includes a fully licenced legal anywhere decoder in the price.
Ian
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 23:48 +0000, Ian bell wrote:
I think it is primarily a licencing issue. ISTR there is one Linux distro (Lindows?) that includes a fully licenced legal anywhere decoder in the price.
If we are talking of Lindows (Linspire) then it is not included in the price but is a paid for add on.
I was going to say that I wanted to try it to compare it to the general suckyness of Windows DVD playback software. But after some Googling I have found that it is in fact Xine with a "legal" replacement for libdvdcss.
For a brief moment I though that something like PowerDVD had been ported over to Linux (shudder)
On 8/3/05, Wayne Stallwood ALUGlist@digimatic.plus.com wrote:
For a brief moment I though that something like PowerDVD had been ported over to Linux (shudder)
They have : http://www.computex.com.tw/cyberlink2000.asp
Tim Green wrote:
On 8/3/05, Wayne Stallwood ALUGlist@digimatic.plus.com wrote:
For a brief moment I though that something like PowerDVD had been ported over to Linux (shudder)
They have : http://www.computex.com.tw/cyberlink2000.asp
YUK!
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 08:59 +0100, Tim Green wrote:
On 8/3/05, Wayne Stallwood ALUGlist@digimatic.plus.com wrote:
For a brief moment I though that something like PowerDVD had been ported over to Linux (shudder)
They have : http://www.computex.com.tw/cyberlink2000.asp
Just goes to show you shouldn't even joke about these things.
This quote interested me.
"Full Frame rate, with minimal CPU requirements (only Celeron 366 and above needed)."
That is somewhat at odds with my experiences with PowerDVD on Windows, I've seen machines with 5 times that clock speed struggle to playback a DVD without skipping frames.
David Reynolds david@reynoldsfamily.org.uk wrote:
Hi,
A quick google search suggests you need the RPM with libdvdcss, which can be found with instructions for xine here: http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/
Once libdvdcss is installed, other movie players should understand it too.
I think the reason it wasn't installed should be pointed out. The code for decoding encrypted DVDs (as some are not encrypted, most are, but not all), is closed source and has to be licensed for use. So hence, I believe (and correct me if I'm wrong) that this code is not official and probably illegal to run.
It's not that it's closed source, the algorithm wasn't open though, and the libdvdcss code came from reverse engineering said algorithm... In itself, it is not illegal to use or modify, using it to copy DVDs, however, is where it all goes a bit pete tong... It's perfectly valid to use it to watch DVDs, as long as that's all you're doing... of course, there's a few other things that it lets you do that some things won't, like skip stupid copyright notices, etc, as it's up to the application using the library to enforce that, not the library itself.
It's not 'official' as far as the EVIL corporations are concerned, the ones that don't actually want you to be able to use the things that you've bought, the likes of Sony, for example. DRM is all the rage, these days... and who are the rights for? Sure as hell isn't the user.
Also, they've got a rather prolific website if it is illegal, there was lots of discussion about this at the time that it first came out, but it's now been around for several years... and it no longer has the banners that it used to have surrounding it saying "these people are trying to sue us... and these ones... and these 'ere other ones", infact, it's all been rather quiet on that front. But, I don't know of any distribution that actually carries the DeCSS code, as there may be issues...
There's an FAQ on the videolan site that semi-answers the question: http://www.videolan.org/doc/faq/en/index.html#id289349
Which basically says "it might be illegal in places, the US we're fairly sure it is".
Cheers,
Brett Parker iDunno@sommitrealweird.co.uk wrote:
It's not that it's closed source, the algorithm wasn't open though, and the libdvdcss code came from reverse engineering said algorithm [...]
That's what I thought until an mplayer developer corrected me: http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/06/msg00136.html (about halfway down after "1)" at the start of line).
<!-- skip down for action suggestions --> <rant> This situation stinks, though. The software has been around years. It should be easy to use by now.
The Content Scrambling System, region-locking and software patents all cause problems with DVDs and have held development back years already IMO. The growing use of international treaties and organisations to "globalise" laws that are bad for users is making things worse. We're sharing restrictions, not knowledge.
As I understand it, the USA, where many of these bad laws seem to start off, has laws which require corporations to make as much money for shareholders as possible, with little regard for fairness. If that means spending a few billion to get a law change which makes them many billions, it makes sense to them. Harmful corporations can be destroyed if enough citizens request it (to give a "death penalty" for dangerously criminal companies), but competition between states for company registration fees means it's hardly used. Far more are destroyed by paperwork errors than by citizen petitions.
Of course, UK laws are not that different and now UK corp's seem to have control of the government's "Creative Industries" policy and the UK pushes the EU ever harder to the "bad for users" line... Only government and businesses on this forum, for example: http://www.culture.gov.uk/creative_industries/ip_forum.htm (The "Consumers Association" is publisher of the Which? mags and provider of paid-access online content.)
If you have money saved, is it invested in these corporations? Do your bank accounts and pension funds have ethical standards? Are you spending your money on products from companies with a history of harming users? Are you helping cause these problems? </rant>
As with many of "hard" problems, you could try taking three steps towards solving it:
REDUCE your intake of bad products: try to avoid buying from the companies who are causing the problems. When there's a choice, avoid "Corrupt Disc" CDs from EMI or zealous DVDs from Universal. Copyright monopolies means there's not always much choice, though.
REUSE the bad things: buy and sell second-hand as much as you can and join lending or rental schemes (legally!). You don't get to keep all the things, but are you wanting the entertainment, or trying to avoid painting the wall behind the bookshelves?
RESTART the system: it will take a while to happen, but help projects like www.freeculture.org.uk to produce a system where "good for users" is a common approach to creativity. Support "forever-free" standard formats like Ogg Vorbis when you can. Help lobby with www.nosoftwarepatents.com as much as asked.
Just some suggestions. I think it would be a shame if we get free software to do these things, but it was made illegal to use it by EU Copyright Directive, software patents or the Next Daft Idea.
Peter Hunter wrote:
Hi everyone, I hope someone can help me with this. I am running Mandriver LE 2005 with the Gnome desktop. I decided it would be nice to play a dvd, but when I load a dvd movie I get the playing window comes up, and then an error message, which says:
DVD - Error Code "The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are youtrying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?"
I have done a search for 'libdvdcss' but can't find it, and don't know what it is anyway.
Have a look here http://developers.videolan.org/libdvdcss/
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