Hello everyone for the first time. My reason for joining is that I have been a Microsoft user for many years and, prior to that, I built my own computers even before Clive Sinclair brought out the ZX80! Linux at first sight looks more interesting than Windows though it appears to be more complicated to get started. Hence my first question. The way I start an internet connection is to open Mozilla , press the configure network icon and press activate. The connection is made but there is no indication of what is happening as there is with Explorer. I therefore have no idea if and when the connection is made. Sound output is connected to another device so I cannot hear any tones. Must I disconnect this and rely on sound to know what is going on or is there another way? I thought I had found the answer with modem lights. I have the icon on the panel but cannot make it do anything. Any suggestions? You asked for the sort of problems beginners have so here is mine. Peter
On Sun, 2003-05-18 at 15:08, Peter Lumb wrote:
Hence my first question. The way I start an internet connection is to open Mozilla , press the configure network icon and press activate. The connection is made but there is no indication of what is happening as there is with Explorer. I therefore have no idea if and when the connection is made. Sound output is connected to another device so I cannot hear any tones. Must I disconnect this and rely on sound to know what is going on or is there another way?
I thought I had found the answer with modem lights. I have the icon on the panel but cannot make it do anything. Any suggestions?
You asked for the sort of problems beginners have so here is mine.
Peter
That's a very Windows way to start a network connection (if I may say so ;-)) You don't say which window manager you're using and I only have experience with KDE really. But on KDE you use KPPP from K->Networking->Remote Access->KPPP. I've added it to my quick launch bar at the bottom. In the KPPP setup dialogue, there is also settings for sound output etc. Matt
On Sun, 18 May 2003, Peter Lumb wrote:
Hence my first question. The way I start an internet connection is to open Mozilla , press the configure network icon and press activate. The connection is made but there is no indication of what is happening as there is with Explorer. I therefore have no idea if and when the connection is made. Sound output is connected to another device so I cannot hear any tones. Must I disconnect this and rely on sound to know what is going on or is there another way?
I use a program called gkrellm to monitor my internet connection. It has some whizzy graphs to monitor a few other things too (memory usage, swap space etc.) You can also use it to start an internet session too. I think a few distros have it on their CD's to install, if this is the case with your distro then *hopefully* it will configure itself too. HTH, BenE
On Sunday 18 May 2003 4:08 pm, Peter Lumb wrote:
Hello everyone for the first time.
My reason for joining is that I have been a Microsoft user for many years and, prior to that, I built my own computers even before Clive Sinclair brought out the ZX80! Linux at first sight looks more interesting than Windows though it appears to be more complicated to get started.
Wow you must be as old as me. I worked on a 16 bit mini built entirely out of TTL in the mid 70's and then built my first 'home computer' on veroboard using an 8080.
Hence my first question. The way I start an internet connection is to open Mozilla , press the configure network icon and press activate. The connection is made but there is no indication of what is happening as there is with Explorer. I therefore have no idea if and when the connection is made. Sound output is connected to another device so I cannot hear any tones. Must I disconnect this and rely on sound to know what is going on or is there another way?
Coming from Windows you would probably be most comfotable with a window/desktop manager like KDE. In KDE you use kppp to start an internet connection. This has a log sceen showing call progress and kde routes the modem sound to the PC speaker for you. Ian
From: Ian Bell
Wow you must be as old as me. I worked on a 16 bit mini built entirely out of TTL in the mid 70's and then built my first 'home computer' on veroboard using an 8080.
Aye, when I was working with the Intel 4004, we used to dream of a 16 bit mini built entirely out of TTL. :o) Keith ____________ Has anyone attained wisdom by pondering the experience of others? Not since the world began, they must pass through the fire. Norman Douglas
On Monday 19 May 2003 12:52 pm, Keith Watson wrote:
From: Ian Bell
Wow you must be as old as me. I worked on a 16 bit mini built entirely out of TTL in the mid 70's and then built my first 'home computer' on veroboard using an 8080.
Aye, when I was working with the Intel 4004, we used to dream of a 16 bit mini built entirely out of TTL.
:o)
Keith
They certainly were pioneering days. My wife worked in the computer suite at ICL Letchworth - a huge air conditioned complex with less computing power than todays desktop PCs. I was developing peripheral interfaces for printers and cassette drives. Can't remember if IBM had invented hard drives yet. Ian
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