distrowatch.com is reporting (http://www.distrowatch.com/01692) that SUSE 9.1 Personal ISO is now Available for Free Download from SUSE's FTP server and mirrors. There's nothing official on this from SUSE as far as I can tell though, but it seems to be intentional!
Anyone heard any more on this? I may be giving SUSE a go for the first time if I can get it downloaded.
tola ^/.
P.S. it always makes me laugh when I see "SUSE LINUX (formerly SuSE Linux)"
On Sunday 20 June 2004 21:27, Ben Francis wrote:
distrowatch.com is reporting (http://www.distrowatch.com/01692) that SUSE 9.1 Personal ISO is now Available for Free Download from SUSE's FTP server and mirrors. There's nothing official on this from SUSE as far as I can tell though, but it seems to be intentional!
Anyone heard any more on this? I may be giving SUSE a go for the first time if I can get it downloaded.
tola ^/.
P.S. it always makes me laugh when I see "SUSE LINUX (formerly SuSE Linux)"
Thanks for the pointer. I'm downloading it now and will fire it up on a spare machine as soon as it completes (later this morning). CDs on request assuming success.
I note the page mentions "...and see its capabilities, before upgrading to the Professional edition via FTP...". In the past I've found SuSE to be very unhelpful on how to do this, compared to Gentoo or Debian, for example. Is it a complex process (asks he, not wanting to put aside a whole week to learn)?
-- GT
On Monday 21 June 2004 08:00, Graham Trott wrote:
Thanks for the pointer. I'm downloading it now and will fire it up on a spare machine as soon as it completes (later this morning). CDs on request assuming success.
I note the page mentions "...and see its capabilities, before upgrading to the Professional edition via FTP...". In the past I've found SuSE to be very unhelpful on how to do this, compared to Gentoo or Debian, for example. Is it a complex process (asks he, not wanting to put aside a whole week to learn)?
It used to be very tricky as the only network package source YaST would see was NFS, so you had to download the whole FTP archive and mirror it locally. Now however YaST accepts HTTP and FTP sources.
It should be as simple as adding the Suse FTP server under "Change Source of Installation" and then clicking the System update.
Remember to set the login correctly when adding the source.
I've never tried it personally, I keep meaning to run an update to 9.1 from 9.0 using this method. Do remember however that you do not get the Full Pro version as the non-free packages will have been removed.
Anyway the only difference between the Personal and Pro versions is the included packages, so once you have added an installation source you can add any of the pro packages you need.
Unless someone corrects me, I believe that the core system is the same for both versions. The extra packages and the more comprehensive manuals are what you pay for in the pro version.
On Sunday 20 June 2004 21:27, Ben Francis wrote:
distrowatch.com is reporting (http://www.distrowatch.com/01692) that SUSE 9.1 Personal ISO is now Available for Free Download from SUSE's FTP server and mirrors. There's nothing official on this from SUSE as far as I can tell though, but it seems to be intentional!
Anyone heard any more on this? I may be giving SUSE a go for the first time if I can get it downloaded.
tola ^/.
P.S. it always makes me laugh when I see "SUSE LINUX (formerly SuSE Linux)"
The download is real, and it works. I have it on two computers now. For the first time, a distro that was able to configure my PCMCIA Prism WiFi card properly and without any more than simply clicking boxes. The difference between Personal and Professional is merely a marketing one; I now know you can get the whole lot by FTP from the mirror servers, by reconfiguring YAST to use them instead of or as well as the CD/DVD.
At the risk of whipping up a storm, having previously installed Debian Sarge on the same computer, with the same 2.6 kernel and KDE3.2, the difference is that SuSE 9.1 is a complete system, not just a set of parts. Perhaps Debian is more stable, but not having had a SuSE crash for a while I find that not a compelling argument. I have a new respect for the effort SuSE (and Mandrake, Syd) put into configuration tools, which make the difference between needing to be an expert and just using a computer without any fuss. Not being one who cares much what's going on under the hood if it gets me from A to B, I prefer the complete distro approach. While having the utmost respect for Debian lovers and their superior expertise (there, I had to say that).
-- GT
On Monday 21 June 2004 16:20, Graham Trott wrote:
The download is real, and it works. I have it on two computers now. For the first time, a distro that was able to configure my PCMCIA Prism WiFi card properly and without any more than simply clicking boxes. The difference between Personal and Professional is merely a marketing one; I now know you can get the whole lot by FTP from the mirror servers, by reconfiguring YAST to use them instead of or as well as the CD/DVD.
Doh, must remember to check for new messages before replying to the list.
At the risk of whipping up a storm, having previously installed Debian Sarge on the same computer, with the same 2.6 kernel and KDE3.2, the difference is that SuSE 9.1 is a complete system, not just a set of parts. Perhaps Debian is more stable, but not having had a SuSE crash for a while I find that not a compelling argument. I have a new respect for the effort SuSE (and Mandrake, Syd) put into configuration tools, which make the difference between needing to be an expert and just using a computer without any fuss. Not being one who cares much what's going on under the hood if it gets me from A to B, I prefer the complete distro approach. While having the utmost respect for Debian lovers and their superior expertise (there, I had to say that).
As a good polished general purpose workstation OS, yep I have to agree SuSE is pretty good. I've been pretty much full circuit around all the popular distros, my first Linux box was SuSE 5.2 (I think) and I am now sitting in front of a SuSE 9.0 box. Now and again I fire up vmware and try something different, but for this machine at least it's going to be SuSE for the forseeable future.