I think the PIM that would have - or might have - met Chris' requirement reasonably well isn't available any more. It was the old Claris Organiser for OS9 and earlier. Years ago now.
You had a calendar with appointments, notes, contacts, one or two other things. Then any one element of these could be linked to any others in some simple way. So you had a sort of ad hoc grouping of (say) a person's contact details, every appointment you had with them, every note of every phone conversation, and maybe the text of all correspondence. You got to each element of the set by clidking a link. And you could have as many of these bundles as you wanted. In addition there were the usual categories.
So Chris could have had journal entries associated with agenda items, or anything else. Snippets of code associated with a project. Reading lists from people at a given class. Anything at all could be made into a set and once you hit one, the others became available, but if you also wanted to look at items by category, you could do that too.
Later on it was sold to Palm and marketed in two forms, the Windows form of Palm organiser not having any of this linking functionality, but the Mac version kept on with it.
It was amazing. I kept looking for something like this too, and hoped maybe Chandler might turn into it, but alas... It may have been a functionality that was too obscure for most people to bother with, but once you got used to it, it was very powerful.
Al
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 07:50:01PM +0100, Peter Alcibiades wrote:
I think the PIM that would have - or might have - met Chris' requirement reasonably well isn't available any more. It was the old Claris Organiser for OS9 and earlier. Years ago now.
You had a calendar with appointments, notes, contacts, one or two other things. Then any one element of these could be linked to any others in some simple way. So you had a sort of ad hoc grouping of (say) a person's contact details, every appointment you had with them, every note of every phone conversation, and maybe the text of all correspondence. You got to each element of the set by clidking a link. And you could have as many of these bundles as you wanted. In addition there were the usual categories.
So Chris could have had journal entries associated with agenda items, or anything else. Snippets of code associated with a project. Reading lists from people at a given class. Anything at all could be made into a set and once you hit one, the others became available, but if you also wanted to look at items by category, you could do that too.
Later on it was sold to Palm and marketed in two forms, the Windows form of Palm organiser not having any of this linking functionality, but the Mac version kept on with it.
It was amazing. I kept looking for something like this too, and hoped maybe Chandler might turn into it, but alas... It may have been a functionality that was too obscure for most people to bother with, but once you got used to it, it was very powerful.
Yes, I've spent much of today hunting around and haven't found anything that really fits what I want.
I'm leaning towards using a wiki (which does the data and linking side of things fairly well) and finding one that has a calendar plugin. I'm sold on the idea of using some sort of markup language for the text entry so that I can use a familiar editor (vile in my case, a vi clone) to enter the text. The basic text files are readable as they are (especially with reStructured Text for example) and even better as web pages.
I have Mozex installed on Firefox so I can get to use vile even with wikis that aren't adapted to editing their files directly.
That leaves finding a wiki with a reasonable calendar plugin.
Chris,
On 29 May 2007, at 9:42 pm, Chris G wrote:
Yes, I've spent much of today hunting around and haven't found anything that really fits what I want.
I'm leaning towards using a wiki (which does the data and linking side of things fairly well) and finding one that has a calendar plugin. I'm sold on the idea of using some sort of markup language for the text entry so that I can use a familiar editor (vile in my case, a vi clone) to enter the text. The basic text files are readable as they are (especially with reStructured Text for example) and even better as web pages.
I have Mozex installed on Firefox so I can get to use vile even with wikis that aren't adapted to editing their files directly.
That leaves finding a wiki with a reasonable calendar plugin.
Since you have a very clear idea about what you are after and have been unable to find the software to fulfil your criteria, why not have a go at writing something yourself, or at least hacking on something that *nearly* does what you want and making it do exactly what you want? This is the joy of open source software! I seem to remember that you have a fairly good grounding in various programming languages, so this seems like the ideal thing to.
Thanks,
Dave
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 09:59:31PM +0100, David Reynolds wrote:
Chris,
On 29 May 2007, at 9:42 pm, Chris G wrote:
Yes, I've spent much of today hunting around and haven't found anything that really fits what I want.
I'm leaning towards using a wiki (which does the data and linking side of things fairly well) and finding one that has a calendar plugin. I'm sold on the idea of using some sort of markup language for the text entry so that I can use a familiar editor (vile in my case, a vi clone) to enter the text. The basic text files are readable as they are (especially with reStructured Text for example) and even better as web pages.
I have Mozex installed on Firefox so I can get to use vile even with wikis that aren't adapted to editing their files directly.
That leaves finding a wiki with a reasonable calendar plugin.
Since you have a very clear idea about what you are after and have been unable to find the software to fulfil your criteria, why not have a go at writing something yourself, or at least hacking on something that *nearly* does what you want and making it do exactly what you want? This is the joy of open source software! I seem to remember that you have a fairly good grounding in various programming languages, so this seems like the ideal thing to.
Yes, I think that may well be what I end up doing. I'm getting slowly more familiar with Python which I find easier to work with (having a C/Java sort of background) than Perl or PHP. I have already added some odds and sods to Rest2Web and it could be that further additions to that will give me what I want, or I may find a Python wiki and add bits to that.
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