Sagr (>>) and Brett (>) said:
?????? Errrr... Does this mean that EVERY SINGLE PERSON who wants to use Apache will encounter the same problem as me????
No, just debian and ubuntu users.
It's all a bit hit and miss. When I first started with Debian it tended to turn things on by default, and even now a lot of packages still seem to.
While I can understand (and agree with) the logic of not dumping daemons onto a server and running them without configuring them, it's annoying how many packages seem to come without any configuration help. Even telling me which documentation to read first is better than nothing, but some don't even manage that.
I should stop moaning and starting learning to maintain packages ;-)
Matthew
On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 03:47:32PM +0100, Matthew Holland wrote:
Sagr (>>) and Brett (>) said:
?????? Errrr... Does this mean that EVERY SINGLE PERSON who wants to use Apache will encounter the same problem as me????
No, just debian and ubuntu users.
It's all a bit hit and miss. When I first started with Debian it tended to turn things on by default, and even now a lot of packages still seem to.
While I can understand (and agree with) the logic of not dumping daemons onto a server and running them without configuring them, it's annoying how many packages seem to come without any configuration help. Even telling me which documentation to read first is better than nothing, but some don't even manage that.
I should stop moaning and starting learning to maintain packages ;-)
Trust me, maintaining packages is a PITA at times - users, on the most part, are annoying (or rather, the vocal ones tend to be... because they're the ones having problems that YOU MUST FIX NOW, DAMMIT, THE SKY IS FALLING ON MY HEAD, FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT - err, or something like that, anyways).
Soon to only have the one package in debian - xmms is going to go bye byes *sulk* and so xmms-scrobbler will be no longer required.
Cheers,
On Monday 06 August 2007 16:23, Brett Parker wrote:
I should stop moaning and starting learning to maintain packages ;-)
Trust me, maintaining packages is a PITA at times - users, on the most part, are annoying
And then there are the "maintainers" that have never read the docs and insist on packaging everything (libraries, kernel modules, binaries, and docs) in to one humungus mush - To add to the insult, *every* possible dependency gets listed in the Depends mantra.. grrr... buffoons... autogenerated rules & control.. grrr... freaks...
At least if you maintain your own version, you can do it right ;)
Regards, Paul.
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