Hi Folks,
I just observed something strange, using Firefox. I wonder if others find the same.
1. Go to
http://www.rspb.org.uk/supporting/campaigns/suttonfen/index.asp
and get a nice page.
2. Now scroll down and find "Find out more", and click on
A wonderful site for future generations to enjoy
I get a complete blackout!
3. Now click the "Back" button to return to the previous page. Again, this is completely blank. Check that the URL in the location window is the same as you originally entered at (1).
4. Clear the URL, and re-enter the URL from (1). Again completely black!
5. Open something else, e.g.
and normal service is resumed. Now clear the URL again and enter the URTL from (1). It's still black! But if you clear the cache and re-enter, it's OK again.
The only explanation I can think of is that the cache of the page at (2) is considered to be the cache for the URL at (1), even though (2) is not at the same URL as (1), being
http://www.rspb.org.uk/supporting/campaigns/suttonfen/wonderful.asp
What's interesting is that if I do it the other way round:
6. Clear history, cookies and cache, close down broswer, restart browser, and enter this last URL above, I then get a parfectly good page. But now find the "> Sutton Fen Appeal > ..." at the top, click on that, and you get a black page again. This of course should take you to where you were at (1) in the first place, since it is the same URL (as seen in the URL box). So it's the same effect: the transition (by any means) from either page to the other makes everything black!
I'm a bit puzzled by all this. Any ideas?
With thanks, Ted.
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(Ted Harding) wrote:
- Go to
http://www.rspb.org.uk/supporting/campaigns/suttonfen/index.asp
and get a nice page.
- Now scroll down and find "Find out more", and click on
A wonderful site for future generations to enjoy
I get a complete blackout!
Loads fine for me Ted. Using Firefox 2.0.0.3 / Ubuntu Feisty.
I get "The landmark purchase of Sutton Fen was made possible by the generosity of RSPB supporters who donated money to our appeal launched in late October 2006, together with a grant of £465,300 from the Tubney Charitable Trust, £50,000 from the Garfield Weston Foundation and two very substantial legacies bequeathed to the RSPB." etc etc. Don't get any kind of black out - it's strange it keeps happening for you.
--Simon
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 02:33:58PM +0100, Ted Harding wrote:
Hi Folks,
I just observed something strange, using Firefox. I wonder if others find the same.
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Works fine for me in etch's iceweasel (firefox 2) and the sarge backport of firefox 1.5. No issues at all...
Of course, when reporting these type occurances it helps if you give: * distribution and version of distribution * version of firefox * list of installed plugins (incase it's one of them doing it)
Cheers,
(Ted Harding) wrote:
http://www.rspb.org.uk/supporting/campaigns/suttonfen/index.asp
Hi
Works ok for me using ubuntu 7.04 Barry
On 31-May-07 18:46:35, Barrys linux mail wrote:
(Ted Harding) wrote:
http://www.rspb.org.uk/supporting/campaigns/suttonfen/index.asp
Hi
Works ok for me using ubuntu 7.04 Barry
Curioser and curioser!
Following the various responses and finally Barry's above, I thought I'd have another look in case there's been an update which changed things.
So I entered the above URL as before, and then clicked on the "A wonderful site for future generations to enjoy" as before, -- and got a black screen as before!
But I noticed that my browser window was a tad wider than it should be (I run a 1280x816 virtual screen in a 1024x768 screen, and the browser geometry is set to 1024x768 so it just fits on the real screen). This time, the right-hand side of the browser was a few pixels off to the right. So I used the mouse to move the right-hand border back where it should be.
Lo and Behold!! Suddenly the black screen vanished and I had the nice web page I should have got in the first place.
Testing the same idea again, I then clicked on the "Back" button to get the original web page (above URL). Just as before, I got a black screen.
So I did the same: use the mouse to wiggle the right-hand edge of the browser window.
And Lo and Behold again! The first window displayed as it should.
SO there's an interaction between moving between web-pages on that sight, slight geometry changes in the browser window, and whether or not you see a black page or the page you should see.
This got me looking into the page source, and I see that it starts off with some functions which have to do with screen size:
// CHECK FOR IE SCREEN SIZE var screenCookie = readCookie('wide'); if (screenCookie == null) { // COOKIE NOT THERE - DOES THE VERSION OF IE KNOW ABOUT SCREEN WIDTH if (screen.width) { // IF SO, IS SCREEN OVER 800 WIDE? [....]
// ADJUST LAYOUT if (largeScreen == true) { document.write('<style type="text/css">#wrapper {width: 900px};[...]
and so on. It looks as though my Firefox may be tripping over some IE snares...
For those who asked:
Red Hat 9 Firefox: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 Firefox/1.0.4 Extensions: None listed under Tools --> Extensions
Ted.
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Hi Ted,
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 08:38:39PM +0100, Ted Harding wrote:
For those who asked:
Red Hat 9
Support ended for Redhat 9 on April 30th 2004...
Firefox: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 Firefox/1.0.4
Support for Firefox 1.0 ended in April last year, and support for Firefox 1.5 ends this month... You really want to be thinking about upgrading to Firefox 2.0 as there are unfixed security vulnerabilities in earlier versions of Firefox and I find it hard to believe that people will test functionality/compatability with their sites with something that is unsupported by the developers. You are only going to see more problems over time.
I'd also look at getting that Redhat updated (well, clean install) of something more modern with some longer term support. Debian has fairly long release cycles, easy upgrades and good security support as does Ubuntu 6.06 which is going to be supported on the desktop for another 2 years yet and another 4 years on servers.
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