I respect the principle of Wiki completely, but I'd still be in favour of getting whatever controls we need in place early. But as was already said, if the sysadmins are happy, so am I :-)
One thing though: call me paranoid, but what is the advantage of showing changer IPs to all registered users (in the link titles on the Recent Changes page)? Is there a differentiation of permissions that can keep them from folks who just wandered in off the street? I don't suppose a poster's IP is particularly valuable, but in principle visitors shouldn't get what they don't need.
Another equally small issue: are the angle quote marks ('raquo') in the page trail a common feature of wikis? Lots of CMSs and things use them for a hierarchical list of ancestor pages, so there might be some confusion to avoid by sticking 'Your recent page views:' or something on the beginning of that line.
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:33:30PM -0000, Matthew wrote:
One thing though: call me paranoid, but what is the advantage of showing changer IPs to all registered users (in the link titles on the Recent Changes page)? Is there a differentiation of permissions that can keep them from folks who just wandered in off the street? I don't suppose a poster's IP is particularly valuable, but in principle visitors shouldn't get what they don't need.
If you want to avoid this, create a user and edit pages using it; IPs/hostnames are only shown for edits from anonymous users.
J.
Noodles,
Tooltip seems to show an IP address for all users regardless of login status.
Rob.
On 26/02/07, Jonathan McDowell noodles@earth.li wrote:
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:33:30PM -0000, Matthew wrote:
One thing though: call me paranoid, but what is the advantage of showing changer IPs to all registered users (in the link titles on the Recent Changes page)? Is there a differentiation of permissions that can keep them from folks who just wandered in off the street? I don't suppose a poster's IP is particularly valuable, but in principle visitors shouldn't get what they don't need.
If you want to avoid this, create a user and edit pages using it; IPs/hostnames are only shown for edits from anonymous users.
J.
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On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 03:55:35PM +0000, Rob Page wrote:
Tooltip seems to show an IP address for all users regardless of login status.
Oooh, so it does. My mouse point never stays still long enough for that to happen normally. Fixed.
J.
On 26/02/07, Matthew matthew@aleaiactaest.com wrote:
I respect the principle of Wiki completely, but I'd still be in favour of getting whatever controls we need in place early. But as was already said, if the sysadmins are happy, so am I :-)
One thing though: call me paranoid, but what is the advantage of showing changer IPs to all registered users (in the link titles on the Recent Changes page)? Is there a differentiation of permissions that can keep them from folks who just wandered in off the street? I don't suppose a poster's IP is particularly valuable, but in principle visitors shouldn't get what they don't need.
Another equally small issue: are the angle quote marks ('raquo') in the page trail a common feature of wikis? Lots of CMSs and things use them for a hierarchical list of ancestor pages, so there might be some confusion to avoid by sticking 'Your recent page views:' or something on the beginning of that line.
Hi, Matthew.
I'd agree with most of what you raise. I hope that when one of the admins looks at creating an ALUG theme (sounds like Rob P is on this ...), they'll strip off a lot of the extraneous information. Certainly, I was also a bit confused by the recent page trail info when I first played with it and I'm not convinced it's that useful in it's current view ...
Basically, you're right - the theme change should remove any information which isn't going to be of use to our visitors (and add anything that might!). The ideal would be a site that looks like a normal web page to casual browsers, but when you've registered and logged in, you get the full flexibility of the wiki.
Peter.
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