I've just bought my wife a new phone, a Nokia C6 and want to make sure that everything is off the old phone, a Nokia N95. If I hook them both up to the machine and run lsusb, I see this :- Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0421:032b Nokia Mobile Phones < - C6 Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0510:0032 Sejin Electron, Inc. Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 005 Device 002: ID 1a7c:0068 Bus 005 Device 003: ID 041e:4052 Creative Technology, Ltd Live! Cam Vista IM Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 008 Device 004: ID 0421:04f0 Nokia Mobile Phones < N95 But how do I see what's on them? My wife tells me that there are some important messages and pictures on the N95 which she doesn't want to lose. Using her Windows XP laptop, I did a backup of the 95 and Nokia PC Suite said that it had transferred everything over but we can't see those pictures anywhere on the C6. I did think that I could run a dd command to make an image of the phone and its associated memory card. The card is less of a problem as I can take that out of the phone and catalogue in a reader, assuming I have one for a MicroSD card. but the phone is not allowing me to talk to it so any help appreciated. -- __ __| |_ __ __ .----------------------------------------------. / _/ _` \ V V / | mailto:cdw_alug@the-walker-household.co.uk | \__\__,_|\_/\_/ |______________________________________________|
On 8 February 2011 13:17, Chris Walker <cdw_alug@the-walker-household.co.uk> wrote:
I've just bought my wife a new phone, a Nokia C6 and want to make sure that everything is off the old phone, a Nokia N95.
Nokia's don't run Linux...! We only support Android phones on this list. ;)
But how do I see what's on them?
Normally the phone will ask if you want to connect it in "PC Suite" mode or just Mass Storage Device. Choose Mass Storage and copy/cut paste stuff off it. The PC Suite backup, restored to another Nokia handset should have all the messages and contacts
My wife tells me that there are some important messages and pictures on the N95 which she doesn't want to lose.
They can't be that important if she hasn't already got them backed up elsewhere!! Argh, I'm in tech support mode from work...! I tell this to so many students. Perhaps don't mention that... So, in summary, I would take a wild guess that the phone might be set to automatically run as "PC Suite" mode which is utterly useless on a Linux box. Find the bit in the Connectivity settings where you can set it to ask you what mode to connect with when USB is plugged in.. Use the file manager app on the phone to move stuff off the C: phone memory, onto the E: memory card so you can get at it in the Mass Storage mode. Although 95% of gumf on the phone memory is all part of the Symbian system and not any use. All images should be on the E: memory card. Worst case scenario, fire up bluetooth on both devices and send stuff over that way. Once the N95 is empty, format the SD card (several times, zeros/ones writes i.e. dban if you're mega paranoid) and factory reset the device, send it off to one of those phone recycling type companies and collect your cheque for ~£70-80. Do not pass go. Hope this helps.. -Simon Ex Nokia User / Android Convert
On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 10:09:16PM +0000, Simon Elliott wrote:
On 8 February 2011 13:17, Chris Walker <cdw_alug@the-walker-household.co.uk> wrote:
I've just bought my wife a new phone, a Nokia C6 and want to make sure that everything is off the old phone, a Nokia N95.
Nokia's don't run Linux...! We only support Android phones on this list. ;)
So, er, what do you think the N900 runs then? J. -- xmpp:noodles@earth.li 101 things you can't have too much of : 51 - News.
On Tue, 8 Feb 2011 14:14:55 -0800 Jonathan McDowell <noodles@earth.li> allegedly wrote:
Nokia's don't run Linux...! We only support Android phones on this list. ;)
So, er, what do you think the N900 runs then?
The N900 is not a phone. It's a hand held computer with telephony capability. Trust me, I've got one. Mick --------------------------------------------------------------------- The text file for RFC 854 contains exactly 854 lines. Do you think there is any cosmic significance in this? Douglas E Comer - Internetworking with TCP/IP Volume 1 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc854.txt ---------------------------------------------------------------------
On 08 Feb 22:20, mick wrote:
On Tue, 8 Feb 2011 14:14:55 -0800 Jonathan McDowell <noodles@earth.li> allegedly wrote:
Nokia's don't run Linux...! We only support Android phones on this list. ;)
So, er, what do you think the N900 runs then?
The N900 is not a phone. It's a hand held computer with telephony capability. Trust me, I've got one.
I've got one too... it definitely functions very well as a phone. Except when something has leaked all the memory on the floor... then it's just a bit annoying. I ♥ my N900 though. -- Brett Parker http://www.sommitrealweird.co.uk/ PGP Fingerprint 1A9E C066 EDEE 6746 36CB BD7F 479E C24F 95C7 1D61
At Tue, 8 Feb 2011 23:08:48 +0000, Brett Parker wrote:
I've got one too
And me. It runs Emacs. And runs it surprisingly well. My Emacs mail client is infinitely preferrable to the Modest client that comes supplied. It also runs CLISP. Hacker's paradise! Best, Richard -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Richard Lewis ISMS, Computing Goldsmiths, University of London Tel: +44 (0)20 7078 5134 Skype: richardjlewis JID: ironchicken@jabber.earth.li http://www.richardlewis.me.uk/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------------ Every time you send an MS Office document, Bill Gates kills a kitten. ------------------------------------
On 8 February 2011 22:09, Simon Elliott <alug@sionide.net> wrote:
On 8 February 2011 13:17, Chris Walker <cdw_alug@the-walker-household.co.uk> wrote:
I've just bought my wife a new phone, a Nokia C6 and want to make sure that everything is off the old phone, a Nokia N95.
Nokia's don't run Linux...! We only support Android phones on this list. ;)
Correction: The Nokia N95 and C6 don't run Linux...! We only support Androids and the N900 on this list. ;) Speaking of which, if anyone wants to purchase an N95 8GB, I have one for sale, please contact me off-list.
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 09:05:57 +0000 Simon Elliott <alug@sionide.net> allegedly wrote:
Correction: The Nokia N95 and C6 don't run Linux...! We only support Androids and the N900 on this list. ;)
Speaking of which, if anyone wants to purchase an N95 8GB, I have one for sale, please contact me off-list.
And I no longer use my N900, so similarly if anyone wants it (unlocked, SIM free, boxed, complete and in as new condition) contact me off list. Mick --------------------------------------------------------------------- The text file for RFC 854 contains exactly 854 lines. Do you think there is any cosmic significance in this? Douglas E Comer - Internetworking with TCP/IP Volume 1 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc854.txt ---------------------------------------------------------------------
On 08/02/11 22:09, Simon Elliott wrote:
On 8 February 2011 13:17, Chris Walker <cdw_alug@the-walker-household.co.uk> wrote:
I've just bought my wife a new phone, a Nokia C6 and want to make sure that everything is off the old phone, a Nokia N95.
Nokia's don't run Linux...! We only support Android phones on this list. ;)
Like others here, I too have an N900 but my wife doesn't like it so I would never buy one for her. I personally don't think it lives up to its initial promises and I'm disappointed with it but that's a discussion for another place.
But how do I see what's on them?
Normally the phone will ask if you want to connect it in "PC Suite" mode or just Mass Storage Device. Choose Mass Storage and copy/cut paste stuff off it. The PC Suite backup, restored to another Nokia handset should have all the messages and contacts
My wife tells me that there are some important messages and pictures on the N95 which she doesn't want to lose.
They can't be that important if she hasn't already got them backed up elsewhere!! Argh, I'm in tech support mode from work...! I tell this to so many students. Perhaps don't mention that...
She's a 'user' so why should she be expected to do backups etc? Nokia do help with their latest version of the Ovi Suite as that seems to do more but let's not pursue that one either. I just want to move the stuff off and move on.
So, in summary, I would take a wild guess that the phone might be set to automatically run as "PC Suite" mode which is utterly useless on a Linux box. Find the bit in the Connectivity settings where you can set it to ask you what mode to connect with when USB is plugged in..
It was. I've now set it to Data Transfer mode and have in connected again.
Use the file manager app on the phone to move stuff off the C: phone memory, onto the E: memory card so you can get at it in the Mass Storage mode. Although 95% of gumf on the phone memory is all part of the Symbian system and not any use. All images should be on the E: memory card.
I now find that she wants to save some MMS messages with images encapsulated within them. But now that I've enabled the Data Transfer mode, I can now save the 'Object' and I've sent them to my N900 using Bluetooth. I can certainly see everything on the N900 via Mass Storage mode so I can now recover all the things I need.
Worst case scenario, fire up bluetooth on both devices and send stuff over that way.
I've put a SIM card of my own in the N95 and had it switched on so that I could forward the MMS message to the C6 but although they sent, the C6 never received them. But the N95 has just had 3 messages from Vodafone with some configurations settings so perhaps they realise that something is amiss somewhere and are trying to help. But as I've now oevercome the problem, perhaps a visit to the Vodafone store in the Castle Mall by my wife will sort that out.
Once the N95 is empty, format the SD card (several times, zeros/ones writes i.e. dban if you're mega paranoid) and factory reset the device, send it off to one of those phone recycling type companies and collect your cheque for ~£70-80. Do not pass go.
I was going to give the N95 away to a friend but I already have the code to do a factory reset on it first.
Hope this helps..
Sure does. Many thanks. -- __ __| |_ __ __ .----------------------------------------------. / _/ _` \ V V / | mailto:cdw_alug@the-walker-household.co.uk | \__\__,_|\_/\_/ |______________________________________________|
On 08/02/11 22:09, Simon Elliott wrote:
On 8 February 2011 13:17, Chris Walker <cdw_alug@the-walker-household.co.uk> wrote:
I've just bought my wife a new phone, a Nokia C6 and want to make sure that everything is off the old phone, a Nokia N95.
[snip]
So, in summary, I would take a wild guess that the phone might be set to automatically run as "PC Suite" mode which is utterly useless on a Linux box. Find the bit in the Connectivity settings where you can set it to ask you what mode to connect with when USB is plugged in..
That was the key. I'm not familiar with the N95 and as I have an aversion to RTFM'ing, and a bloke so I don't ask my wife either, I wasn't to know ;-)
Hope this helps..
Thanks once again. I have now completed the task. -- __ __| |_ __ __ .----------------------------------------------. / _/ _` \ V V / | mailto:cdw_alug@the-walker-household.co.uk | \__\__,_|\_/\_/ |______________________________________________|
On 08/02/11 13:17, Chris Walker wrote:
I've just bought my wife a new phone, a Nokia C6 and want to make sure that everything is off the old phone, a Nokia N95.
Can I go back to this please? I'd like to learn a bit more about investigating the USB side of linux.
If I hook them both up to the machine and run lsusb, I see this :- Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0421:032b Nokia Mobile Phones < - C6 Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0510:0032 Sejin Electron, Inc. Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 005 Device 002: ID 1a7c:0068 Bus 005 Device 003: ID 041e:4052 Creative Technology, Ltd Live! Cam Vista IM Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 008 Device 004: ID 0421:04f0 Nokia Mobile Phones < N95
I thought that I could issue a mount command and mount /dev/bus/usb/008/004 but it said it wasn't a block device (I think!) So how would I go about mounting it? -- __ __| |_ __ __ .----------------------------------------------. / _/ _` \ V V / | mailto:cdw_alug@the-walker-household.co.uk | \__\__,_|\_/\_/ |______________________________________________|
On 09 Feb 17:17, Chris Walker wrote:
On 08/02/11 13:17, Chris Walker wrote:
I've just bought my wife a new phone, a Nokia C6 and want to make sure that everything is off the old phone, a Nokia N95.
Can I go back to this please? I'd like to learn a bit more about investigating the USB side of linux.
If I hook them both up to the machine and run lsusb, I see this :- Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0421:032b Nokia Mobile Phones < - C6 Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0510:0032 Sejin Electron, Inc. Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 005 Device 002: ID 1a7c:0068 Bus 005 Device 003: ID 041e:4052 Creative Technology, Ltd Live! Cam Vista IM Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 008 Device 004: ID 0421:04f0 Nokia Mobile Phones < N95
I thought that I could issue a mount command and mount /dev/bus/usb/008/004 but it said it wasn't a block device (I think!)
So how would I go about mounting it?
You'd check the back end of /var/log/kern.log and see what block devices have been created. -- Brett Parker http://www.sommitrealweird.co.uk/ PGP Fingerprint 1A9E C066 EDEE 6746 36CB BD7F 479E C24F 95C7 1D61
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