Dear Sir, Thanks for the email you ask why i chose Linux,it boils down to three things. 1.I run a dual boot system and as my other OS happens to be Windows98,Linux is a little newer. 2.Linux seems to be more compatible with my new upgraded system. 3.As an alternative to spending £170(what it cost a friend)on Windows XP. So it seems a worthwhile trade off to have access to the internet and learn how to use a command line. Yours Sincerely RJohnson
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Your top-posting (is that what it's called?) revealed the password you chose when you subscribed to this list. I don't expect anyone here to do anything nasty, but I do suggest you change it now...
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Welcome to the list Robert.
What distribution of Linux are you using at the moment ?
Also regarding Windows XP, if your upgrade to your machine included significant parts that are essential to it's operation (Processor, Hard Drive or Main Board) then you would have qualified for an OEM copy of Windows XP rather than the full price one your friend bought...The OEM version is a lot cheaper, but can only be used on that machine.
But don't worry not only will you still save money by using Linux, you will probably end up with a more secure system and learn a lot more about your computer.
On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 02:44 +0000, robert wrote:
So it seems a worthwhile trade off to have access to the internet and learn how to use a command line.
** Wayne Stallwood ALUGlist@digimatic.plus.com [2006-02-02 09:30]:
Welcome to the list Robert.
What distribution of Linux are you using at the moment ?
My money's on Mandrake ;)
Also regarding Windows XP, if your upgrade to your machine included significant parts that are essential to it's operation (Processor, Hard Drive or Main Board) then you would have qualified for an OEM copy of Windows XP rather than the full price one your friend bought...The OEM version is a lot cheaper, but can only be used on that machine.
You shouldn't be advertising that fact here should you? At least not without making a more pointed comment about the fact that if your motherboard fails then you technically should be replacing your OS as well, or other similar comment :)
I remember talking to a supplier some time ago that had a major amount of hassle with Microsoft because the motherboard they supplied in a new machine failed within the month and MS were insisting that he supply a brand new copy of Windows with the warranty replacement motherboard! (So either he was out of pocket or the customer would be very unhappy about the extra cost! MS relented in the end though).
** end quote [Wayne Stallwood]
On Thursday 02 February 2006 11:09, Paul Tansom wrote:
I remember talking to a supplier some time ago that had a major amount of hassle with Microsoft because the motherboard they supplied in a new machine failed within the month and MS were insisting that he supply a brand new copy of Windows with the warranty replacement motherboard!
Surely that must be a good advertisement for Linux - Regardless of what hardware you upgrade, you only ever need one copy. None of this lark with dongles, keys, or Sony root kits.
Adn of course, if you find a bug, you don't have to wait for Service Pack X.X to be released. The source code for Linux is always available for you to change as you see fit (within the limits of GPL or other similar licence).
Regards, Paul.
The message 200602021257.51077.bdi-emc@ntlworld.com from Paul bdi-emc@ntlworld.com contains these words:
On Thursday 02 February 2006 11:09, Paul Tansom wrote:
I remember talking to a supplier some time ago that had a major amount of hassle with Microsoft because the motherboard they supplied in a new machine failed within the month and MS were insisting that he supply a brand new copy of Windows with the warranty replacement motherboard!
Surely that must be a good advertisement for Linux - Regardless of what hardware you upgrade, you only ever need one copy. None of this lark with dongles, keys, or Sony root kits.
Especially as rootkits offer an extremely secure place for nasties to hide.
Adn of course, if you find a bug, you don't have to wait for Service Pack X.X to be released. The source code for Linux is always available for you to change as you see fit (within the limits of GPL or other similar licence).
Well, that's for folk who know what goes on under the bonnet innit.
On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 11:09 +0000, Paul Tansom wrote:
Also regarding Windows XP, if your upgrade to your machine included significant parts that are essential to it's operation (Processor, Hard Drive or Main Board) then you would have qualified for an OEM copy of Windows XP rather than the full price one your friend bought...The OEM version is a lot cheaper, but can only be used on that machine.
You shouldn't be advertising that fact here should you? At least not without making a more pointed comment about the fact that if your motherboard fails then you technically should be replacing your OS as well, or other similar comment :)
No in my opinion it is fine to advertise this :-) The restriction is once you have bound the licence to the machine is that you cannot move it to another complete unit. Given that it is very hard to buy a machine these days that doesn't already have such a licence, the boxed version (which is transferable between machines) is especially worthless.
Actually it would appear that the old style OEM licences have now all but gone in favour of the new style "system builder" packs which can only be supplied as part of a whole machine (where whole machine is defined as a fully assembled computer system comprising of CPU, Motherboard, Hard Drive, PSU and Case)
With the original OEM licence packs things get a bit grey and murky once you start to consider how much of the machine you have to retain to keep the licence....the licence CoA is stuck to the case and considering the PSU is a vital (non peripheral as MS define it) part of the system it may be within the terms to transfer the licence to a new machine with these parts...then replacing the PSU later "due to failure"
I remember talking to a supplier some time ago that had a major amount of hassle with Microsoft because the motherboard they supplied in a new machine failed within the month and MS were insisting that he supply a brand new copy of Windows with the warranty replacement motherboard! (So either he was out of pocket or the customer would be very unhappy about the extra cost! MS relented in the end though).
I don't know how this could happen, but we are entitled to replace any system component as an upgrade or due to failure...this does sometimes mean that you have to go through the activation procedure again (which will most likely fail) but a freephone call to Microsoft to explain the situation will resolve this.
There are other restrictions with OEM operating system licences, one being your support ends at the supplier not Microsoft.
One area where I am still not sure is this.
Both my laptop and my desktop originally had XP OEM licences and both still retain the CoA...However I have reformatted both of these and now run XP (installed from OEM media) on top of VMware on top of Linux...So is that within the bounds of the OEM licence ? Technically the code is running on the same hardware but you could consider the virtual machine a different machine to what the licence was originally bound to.
I actually raised this query with Microsoft System Builder support and am yet to receive a definitive answer..so maybe they are as confused as me :-)
The message 1138872408.10699.8.camel@localhost.localdomain from Wayne Stallwood ALUGlist@digimatic.plus.com contains these words:
Welcome to the list Robert.
AOL
What distribution of Linux are you using at the moment ?
<horrid grin>
Mandrake.
</horrid grin>
Also regarding Windows XP, if your upgrade to your machine included significant parts that are essential to it's operation (Processor, Hard Drive or Main Board) then you would have qualified for an OEM copy of Windows XP rather than the full price one your friend bought...The OEM version is a lot cheaper, but can only be used on that machine.
But don't worry not only will you still save money by using Linux, you will probably end up with a more secure system and learn a lot more about your computer.
Probably?
I think that's a bit of an understatement, especially with XP.
On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 11:41 +0000, Anthony Anson wrote:
What distribution of Linux are you using at the moment ?
<horrid grin>
Mandrake.
</horrid grin>
Do you know it honestly took me several hours to get that !!
I didn't even bother scrolling down Robert's message to see the password and was wondering how everybody knew...Do'h
Too many late nights and short deadlines are killing my brain.
The message 1138923959.20596.26.camel@localhost.localdomain from Wayne Stallwood ALUGlist@digimatic.plus.com contains these words:
On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 11:41 +0000, Anthony Anson wrote:
What distribution of Linux are you using at the moment ?
<horrid grin>
Mandrake.
</horrid grin>
Do you know it honestly took me several hours to get that !!
I didn't even bother scrolling down Robert's message to see the password and was wondering how everybody knew...Do'h
Too many late nights and short deadlines are killing my brain.
I was just hoping that the post wasn't entirely quotation with a top-posted reply...
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