Recommendations for software to use with Creative Zen MP3 player
What do the panel recommend to use with a Creative Zen MP3 player. Main requirement is to be able to download MP3s and put them onto the Zen, it's not a requirement to be able to play them on the computer. Podcast synchronisation would be a plus but lets try walking before we run. Doing this on windows has turned into a disatrous mess. -- Chris Green
On Wed, 2008-01-02 at 21:02 +0000, Chris G wrote:
What do the panel recommend to use with a Creative Zen MP3 player.
Main requirement is to be able to download MP3s and put them onto the Zen, it's not a requirement to be able to play them on the computer.
Podcast synchronisation would be a plus but lets try walking before we run. Doing this on windows has turned into a disatrous mess.
If you use GNOME: Gnomad2 (http://gnomad2.sourceforge.net/), Rhythmbox (http://www.gnome.org/projects/rhythmbox/ the de-facto Gnome music player), if you use KDE: Amarok (http://amarok.kde.org/ the de-facto KDE music player); or any of the various tools and GUIs that use libmtp (http://libmtp.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=downstream) You should find one or two of these in any distribution. I rather like the idea of MTPFS (but then I'm a sicko!). Phil.
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 09:17:43AM +0000, Phil Ashby wrote:
On Wed, 2008-01-02 at 21:02 +0000, Chris G wrote:
What do the panel recommend to use with a Creative Zen MP3 player.
Main requirement is to be able to download MP3s and put them onto the Zen, it's not a requirement to be able to play them on the computer.
Podcast synchronisation would be a plus but lets try walking before we run. Doing this on windows has turned into a disatrous mess.
If you use GNOME: Gnomad2 (http://gnomad2.sourceforge.net/), Rhythmbox (http://www.gnome.org/projects/rhythmbox/ the de-facto Gnome music player), if you use KDE: Amarok (http://amarok.kde.org/ the de-facto KDE music player); or any of the various tools and GUIs that use libmtp (http://libmtp.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=downstream)
Neither Gnomad2 nor amarok recognises the Zen player automatically. The help for Gnomad2 setup is very out of date so I'm going to spend a little more time with amarok, it looks a lot slicker anyway.
You should find one or two of these in any distribution. I rather like the idea of MTPFS (but then I'm a sicko!).
They're both available for Fedora 7 and have both installed without any issues but, as I said, neither sees the Zen automatically. MTPFS seems to me the obvious way to go, I quite agree with you. I'm not sure that the Zen is MTP though. -- Chris Green
On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 12:04 +0000, Chris G wrote:
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 09:17:43AM +0000, Phil Ashby wrote:
On Wed, 2008-01-02 at 21:02 +0000, Chris G wrote:
What do the panel recommend to use with a Creative Zen MP3 player.
If you use GNOME: Gnomad2 (http://gnomad2.sourceforge.net/), Rhythmbox (http://www.gnome.org/projects/rhythmbox/ the de-facto Gnome music player), if you use KDE: Amarok (http://amarok.kde.org/ the de-facto KDE music player); or any of the various tools and GUIs that use libmtp (http://libmtp.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=downstream)
Neither Gnomad2 nor amarok recognises the Zen player automatically. The help for Gnomad2 setup is very out of date so I'm going to spend a little more time with amarok, it looks a lot slicker anyway.
Oh. That's odd since all the libmtp based tools worked first time with my son's Creative Zen Touch 20GB player (which has V2.x MTP firmware). Perhaps your player has V1.x PDE firmware (thus you need libnjb based tools: http://libnjb.sourceforge.net/). Gnomad2 should still work with such a device though.
You should find one or two of these in any distribution. I rather like the idea of MTPFS (but then I'm a sicko!).
They're both available for Fedora 7 and have both installed without any issues but, as I said, neither sees the Zen automatically.
MTPFS seems to me the obvious way to go, I quite agree with you. I'm not sure that the Zen is MTP though.
See above, perhaps you have an older PDE device, or a shiny new, locked to Windows one (just an ugly rumor AFAIK)? Phil.
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:49:46PM +0000, Phil Ashby wrote:
On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 12:04 +0000, Chris G wrote:
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 09:17:43AM +0000, Phil Ashby wrote:
On Wed, 2008-01-02 at 21:02 +0000, Chris G wrote:
What do the panel recommend to use with a Creative Zen MP3 player.
If you use GNOME: Gnomad2 (http://gnomad2.sourceforge.net/), Rhythmbox (http://www.gnome.org/projects/rhythmbox/ the de-facto Gnome music player), if you use KDE: Amarok (http://amarok.kde.org/ the de-facto KDE music player); or any of the various tools and GUIs that use libmtp (http://libmtp.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=downstream)
Neither Gnomad2 nor amarok recognises the Zen player automatically. The help for Gnomad2 setup is very out of date so I'm going to spend a little more time with amarok, it looks a lot slicker anyway.
Oh. That's odd since all the libmtp based tools worked first time with my son's Creative Zen Touch 20GB player (which has V2.x MTP firmware). Perhaps your player has V1.x PDE firmware (thus you need libnjb based tools: http://libnjb.sourceforge.net/). Gnomad2 should still work with such a device though.
A little more digging has revealed that I need the very latest gnomad2 for it to work with the Zen 4Gb. Well, more to the point I need libmtp version 0.2.4 and that in turn needs the *development* version of libusb - I think this is going to take a little time! First problem, I'm not familiar enough with cvs to work out how to download the development version of libusb. All it says on the libusb site is:- You can check it out with the V1_0_DEVEL tag from CVS. ... but I can't work out the anonymous CVS command to use to specify downloading with that V1_0_DEVEL tag, can anyone help please. -- Chris Green
On 03 Jan 13:46, Chris G wrote:
First problem, I'm not familiar enough with cvs to work out how to download the development version of libusb. All it says on the libusb site is:-
You can check it out with the V1_0_DEVEL tag from CVS.
... but I can't work out the anonymous CVS command to use to specify downloading with that V1_0_DEVEL tag, can anyone help please.
Following the link to the sourceforge destructions for CVS you get... cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@libusb.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/libusb login (when prompted for password, hit enter) cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@libusb.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/libusb co -P -r V1_0_DEVEL libusb (OK - so that second line I've added some bits to ;) HTH, HAND. -- Brett Parker
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 02:06:46PM +0000, Brett Parker wrote:
On 03 Jan 13:46, Chris G wrote:
First problem, I'm not familiar enough with cvs to work out how to download the development version of libusb. All it says on the libusb site is:-
You can check it out with the V1_0_DEVEL tag from CVS.
... but I can't work out the anonymous CVS command to use to specify downloading with that V1_0_DEVEL tag, can anyone help please.
Following the link to the sourceforge destructions for CVS you get...
cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@libusb.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/libusb login
(when prompted for password, hit enter)
cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@libusb.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/libusb co -P -r V1_0_DEVEL libusb
(OK - so that second line I've added some bits to ;)
Yes, it was those "some bits" that I needed, thanks! -- Chris Green
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