Adam Bower abower@thebowery.co.uk writes:
Anyway, I just signed up with freeserve not much more than a week ago and their data transfer for webpages seems abysmal? [...]
There are four access numbers for freeserve, not all of which work in all parts of the country. They actually connect over totally different networks from the telco level up (and there's one which leaves BT at the local exchange), so performance varies between them. A quick look on groups.google or the freeserve.help.anytime group should get the numbers for you, as I don't have them to hand.
There are two sets of web proxy caches, one transparent and one normal. If one is screwing up, sometimes the other works fine. Try toggling your proxy settings. It sounds like the trans ones are broken from what you say.
Replies to social@lists.alug, please, as this isn't terribly Linuxish.
Hi Mark,
Replies to social@lists.alug, please, as this isn't terribly Linuxish.
Agreed, and I would say the same of the impenetrable debates about programming and system development which frequently sprout on main :)
Seriously, I do suggest that some thought be given to a separate developers list, as has been done with social.
Regards Syd
Hi,
What do people think about a hierarchy which follows something like:-
Announce - Announcements for all things Alug (meetings, etc.) Main - Meetings discussion, Linux (installing/config) help/discussion, etc Social - BBQs a plenty, vaguley Linux related meets and greets, etc. Developers - discussion for any developers out there (coding, IDEs, etc) Misc - anything else that doesn't fit into the above
I certainly like the idea of a seperate developers list - anything C, C++, PHP or Perl can be discussed there and kept off the other mailing lists. Likewise for a misc list - anything not vaguely related to anything above can be placed there. Mass debates on graduates vs non-graduates (oo-er missus), and anything else, etc.
Regards,
Martyn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Syd Hancock" syd2@toufol.com To: "MJ Ray" markj@cloaked.freeserve.co.uk Cc: main@lists.alug.org.uk Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 4:59 PM Subject: [Alug] Suitable threads on main [was: Freeserve being a big bag of poo?]
Hi Mark,
Replies to social@lists.alug, please, as this isn't terribly Linuxish.
Agreed, and I would say the same of the impenetrable debates about programming and system development which frequently sprout on main :)
Seriously, I do suggest that some thought be given to a separate
developers
list, as has been done with social.
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, Martyn Drake wrote:
I certainly like the idea of a seperate developers list - anything C, C++, PHP or Perl can be discussed there and kept off the other mailing lists. Likewise for a misc list - anything not vaguely related to anything above can be placed there. Mass debates on graduates vs non-graduates (oo-er missus), and anything else, etc.
I think a developers list may be a good idea, my take is that we don't really need a misc list as we have the social list already which can be rather miscellaneous. I think having a misc and a social list would be quite confusing.
Adam
I think having a misc and a social list would be quite confusing.
I tend to agree. A 'misc' category is useful when stuffing things into filing cabinets but too many lists can be as problematic as too few
IMHO as ever Syd
On 20-Sep-01 Martyn Drake wrote:
Hi,
What do people think about a hierarchy which follows something like:-
Announce - Announcements for all things Alug (meetings, etc.)
Makes sence to me we currently use main for this and if we are all dividing up the groups we need one central point to look at and subscribe to with very low posting numbers.
Main - Meetings discussion, Linux (installing/config)
I like this list
help/discussion, etc
Is not this Main's job as well as install issues and configuration
Social - BBQs a plenty, vaguley Linux related meets and greets, etc.
OK some people want to filter out sillyness.
Developers - discussion for any developers out there (coding, IDEs, etc)
Is not this as central to linux as playing with the config and more of a main list thing, if this is going to happen maybe a sysadmin list should exist.
Misc - anything else that doesn't fit into the above
I agree with the other thread that states that this is the social lists job
In summary I feel that an anounce list is a good idea, but other lists seems like over kill, do people rearly have such a problem with the band width that they want to divide the group into subgroups who only subscribe to one list or anouther?
I know not all of us have toll free internet but at least all our mails are plain text so the band width is not that bad. I fear it could go the way of manlug and have lists that have so few new subjects your almost intimidated to post anythink but replys for fear of being foolish.
so I vote that if we add anything (which I dont see why we should rearly) we should add an anounce list and not get wrapped up on this issue. That way alug remains friendly and highish bandwidth (a good thing in my opinion) with an anounce list for people who only want to know whats going on.
Well thats my thoughs
Regards to you all
Owen Synge
Date: 20-Sep-01 Time: 13:02:30
Hi Martyn
Just the three would suffice - Keep the developers within Main, or some little gem might slip by unnoticed. I for one, would hate to think that a question might have missed by a guru because it was posted to the wrong list.
Regards, Paul.
On Thursday 20 September 2001 12:05 pm, Martyn Drake wrote:
What do people think about a hierarchy which follows something like:-
Announce - Announcements for all things Alug (meetings, etc.) Main - Meetings discussion, Linux (installing/config)
help/discussion, etc
Social - BBQs a plenty, vaguley Linux related meets and greets, etc. Developers - discussion for any developers out there (coding, IDEs, etc) Misc - anything else that doesn't fit into the above
Actually, ignoring Mark's advice for a moment as I am not subscribed to social, FYI I get v. fast web page serving using freeserve's friaco-based service with 56k dial-up, access no. used is 0808 9933006 - including linuxnewbie.org. But I don't have a web cache set as I have mistrusted them for years :)
Syd
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