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anyone else planning on going to this?
Mick
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 05:32:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Olivia Jardine - ORG campaigns@openrightsgroup.org To: mick@rlogin.net Subject: Invite: ORG Norwich Launch Event
Dear Mick Morgan,
We’d like to invite you to ORG Norwich’s launch event - The Internet and You: The latest developments in digital rights. http://www.meetup.com/open-rights-group-norwich/events/171314372/
The event will provide an all encompassing series of talks on privacy, surveillance and your digital rights.
These will include talks from Jim Killock, Director of Open Rights Group, Paul Bernal, a Lecturer in privacy rights from UEA and Wendy Grossman, author of net.wars.
Everyone is welcome, but please reserve your place to avoid disappointment. http://www.meetup.com/open-rights-group-norwich/events/171314372/
When: 6pm, Friday 25th April Where: The Curve Auditorium, The Forum, Norwich How much: Free!
The event will provide a fun and informal way to meet with other local ORG supporters, as well as an opportunity to learn about privacy, surveillance and digital rights, so we hope to see you all there.
For further details and to let us know that you’re coming, visit our meetup page. http://www.meetup.com/open-rights-group-norwich/events/171314372/
Thanks and best wishes,
Olivia
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mick wrote:
anyone else planning on going to this?
Probably not, unless I'm in Norwich that day anyway, but if you do go, be aware that the Open Rights Group is a Group advocating Open Rights and not actually open: it does not have open membership of the group. Only a minority of its board is elected and then only if you buy a vote. They're generally doing good work and probably have interesting things to say, but they're firmly in the "fellow traveller for now" camp IMO and is it really effective to argue that digital rights should be democratic with an organisation that isn't?
I'd still be interested to know what you see, what they have to say and your take on it. Maybe on http://planet.alug.org.uk - I'll write more about organisations there soon. The whole Python Foundation change to open membership had already raised it in my mind.
Regards, - -- MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op http://koha-community.org supporter, web and library systems developer. In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html Available for hire (including development) at http://www.software.coop/
On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:17:32 +0100 MJ Ray mjr@phonecoop.coop allegedly wrote:
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mick wrote:
anyone else planning on going to this?
Probably not, unless I'm in Norwich that day anyway, but if you do go, be aware that the Open Rights Group is a Group advocating Open Rights and not actually open: it does not have open membership of the group. Only a minority of its board is elected and then only if you buy a vote. They're generally doing good work and probably have interesting things to say, but they're firmly in the "fellow traveller for now" camp IMO and is it really effective to argue that digital rights should be democratic with an organisation that isn't?
Yes, I know about their structure (I am a paying member). I am more interested in their campaigning than their internal setup. However, should their structure become obscure or their direction appear at odds with my own, then I might wish to get more involved (or not). Certainly Jim Killock often seems to like the sound of his own voice, but I've met a lot of prima donnas in my time and they don't bother me over much.
I'd still be interested to know what you see, what they have to say and your take on it. Maybe on http://planet.alug.org.uk - I'll write more about organisations there soon. The whole Python Foundation change to open membership had already raised it in my mind.
I'll make some notes and let you know.
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