What do others here use to backup data on their machines (if anything!)? I'm looking for something a bit more friendly (and clever) than just tar or rsync but nowhere near as big and complex as backupbuddy or backupPC. So is there anything 'in between'? I'd like a GUI that allows me to choose directories that I want backed up and sets up a regular backup of those directories. Ideally it would allow me to have different 'levels' of backup so that, for example, very important stuff like the company accounts database would be copied offsite and frequently and less important stuff (like say /home) would just be copied to a different hard drive, possible less frequently. I don't want total machine backup, if the machine or a disk expires I'll reinstall, that's only time consuming. All I want to backup is actual data which would be near impossible to rebuild. If there's nothing ready made I'll just write a script using rsync, it wouldn't be too difficult. -- Chris Green
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007, Eur Ing Chris Green wrote:
What do others here use to backup data on their machines (if anything!)?
I'm looking for something a bit more friendly (and clever) than just tar or rsync but nowhere near as big and complex as backupbuddy or backupPC. So is there anything 'in between'?
I'd like a GUI that allows me to choose directories that I want backed up and sets up a regular backup of those directories. Ideally it would allow me to have different 'levels' of backup so that, for example, very important stuff like the company accounts database would be copied offsite and frequently and less important stuff (like say /home) would just be copied to a different hard drive, possible less frequently.
I don't want total machine backup, if the machine or a disk expires I'll reinstall, that's only time consuming. All I want to backup is actual data which would be near impossible to rebuild.
If there's nothing ready made I'll just write a script using rsync, it wouldn't be too difficult.
I looked at various things in the past but decided to write a shell script. I backup a list of directories (using tar), gzip it, GPG encrypt, split into 50Mb chunks and upload it to the web space that I get with my ISP. I run it twice, one every day for mail etc., the other every week for a full backup, including a full MySQL dump. Works for me! :) -Mark ----------------------------------------------------------- This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. This information is intended to be read only by the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are on notice that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete or destroy any copy of this message.
On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 02:19:00PM +0000, Mark Ridley wrote:
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007, Eur Ing Chris Green wrote:
What do others here use to backup data on their machines (if anything!)?
I'm looking for something a bit more friendly (and clever) than just tar or rsync but nowhere near as big and complex as backupbuddy or backupPC. So is there anything 'in between'?
I'd like a GUI that allows me to choose directories that I want backed up and sets up a regular backup of those directories. Ideally it would allow me to have different 'levels' of backup so that, for example, very important stuff like the company accounts database would be copied offsite and frequently and less important stuff (like say /home) would just be copied to a different hard drive, possible less frequently.
I don't want total machine backup, if the machine or a disk expires I'll reinstall, that's only time consuming. All I want to backup is actual data which would be near impossible to rebuild.
If there's nothing ready made I'll just write a script using rsync, it wouldn't be too difficult.
I looked at various things in the past but decided to write a shell script. I backup a list of directories (using tar), gzip it, GPG encrypt, split into 50Mb chunks and upload it to the web space that I get with my ISP.
I run it twice, one every day for mail etc., the other every week for a full backup, including a full MySQL dump.
That could well be what I end up doing, except I can do it using rsync as I have shell access to my ISP. -- Chris Green
On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 02:08:37PM +0000, Eur Ing Chris Green wrote:
What do others here use to backup data on their machines (if anything!)?
I'm looking for something a bit more friendly (and clever) than just tar or rsync but nowhere near as big and complex as backupbuddy or backupPC. So is there anything 'in between'?
We tend to use dirvish for backups, and then dump that off to tapes every night for an offsite backup. Cheers, -- Brett Parker
On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 02:21:49PM +0000, Brett Parker wrote:
On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 02:08:37PM +0000, Eur Ing Chris Green wrote:
What do others here use to backup data on their machines (if anything!)?
I'm looking for something a bit more friendly (and clever) than just tar or rsync but nowhere near as big and complex as backupbuddy or backupPC. So is there anything 'in between'?
We tend to use dirvish for backups, and then dump that off to tapes every night for an offsite backup.
I did have two DAT tape drives but the hassle factor meant that backups weren't all that frequent. My offsite backups will be:- Copy files to remote server (I have 3Gb on my ISP, with shell access). Copy files to DVD and put in the garage (the garage is a long way from the house, if both burn down I won't be worried about the backups!). -- Chris Green
On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 02:46:51PM +0000, Eur Ing Chris Green wrote:
On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 02:21:49PM +0000, Brett Parker wrote:
On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 02:08:37PM +0000, Eur Ing Chris Green wrote:
What do others here use to backup data on their machines (if anything!)?
I'm looking for something a bit more friendly (and clever) than just tar or rsync but nowhere near as big and complex as backupbuddy or backupPC. So is there anything 'in between'?
We tend to use dirvish for backups, and then dump that off to tapes every night for an offsite backup.
I did have two DAT tape drives but the hassle factor meant that backups weren't all that frequent. My offsite backups will be:-
We've got just the one, but it's a 6 tape switcher... and we've not got enough space on the tapes for the nightly backup at the moment!
Copy files to remote server (I have 3Gb on my ISP, with shell access).
Copy files to DVD and put in the garage (the garage is a long way from the house, if both burn down I won't be worried about the backups!).
Heh! -- Brett Parker
On 23/02/07, Brett Parker <iDunno@sommitrealweird.co.uk> wrote:
On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 02:08:37PM +0000, Eur Ing Chris Green wrote:
What do others here use to backup data on their machines (if anything!)?
I'm looking for something a bit more friendly (and clever) than just tar or rsync but nowhere near as big and complex as backupbuddy or backupPC. So is there anything 'in between'?
We tend to use dirvish for backups, and then dump that off to tapes every night for an offsite backup.
I use dirvish in a similar manner. It's based on the rsync protocol; bit awkward to set up but well worth the effort. It will allow you to configure in a conf file what you want to back up and when. Jenny
On 23/2/2007, "Eur Ing Chris Green" <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
What do others here use to backup data on their machines (if anything!)?
I'm looking for something a bit more friendly (and clever) than just tar or rsync but nowhere near as big and complex as backupbuddy or backupPC. So is there anything 'in between'?
I must admit I've tried several different approaches from the complex to the simplistic and I've finally settled on PartImage. I never have any partition bigger than 5Gb (although I suspect that, in reality, you could get away with larger as partimage does compression if required) and then boot from a copy of SystemRescueCD <www.sysresccd.org> to create backup images that I can burn to a DVD+RW. Obviously you need a spare partition to hold the backup images. I've a colleague here at work who only uses Windows and he also uses this approach (I'll get him onto Linux yet! :o) ). And, yes, before you ask we have tested a restore using a spare hard disk and it works for both Linux and Windows. It should be possible to automate the whole process with a customised copy of the systemRescueCD. There's a very useful pdf manual in the root of the CD that explains how to do this.
I have to admit, I just use rsync. I've got two directories that I rsync to another drive on the server daily, one of which gets archived once a week. Soon I'm going to set it up to rsync to another server (preferably off-site) so I'm better covered. Also, I'm in the process of trying to get Rsync over SSH working on windows, so I can remotely backup my parent's PC. It's not working yet, has anyone done this before? Matt -----Original Message----- From: main-bounces@lists.alug.org.uk [mailto:main-bounces@lists.alug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Eur Ing Chris Green Sent: 23 February 2007 14:09 To: main@lists.alug.org.uk Subject: [ALUG] Simple backup solutions What do others here use to backup data on their machines (if anything!)? I'm looking for something a bit more friendly (and clever) than just tar or rsync but nowhere near as big and complex as backupbuddy or backupPC. So is there anything 'in between'? I'd like a GUI that allows me to choose directories that I want backed up and sets up a regular backup of those directories. Ideally it would allow me to have different 'levels' of backup so that, for example, very important stuff like the company accounts database would be copied offsite and frequently and less important stuff (like say /home) would just be copied to a different hard drive, possible less frequently. I don't want total machine backup, if the machine or a disk expires I'll reinstall, that's only time consuming. All I want to backup is actual data which would be near impossible to rebuild. If there's nothing ready made I'll just write a script using rsync, it wouldn't be too difficult. -- Chris Green _______________________________________________ main@lists.alug.org.uk http://www.alug.org.uk/ http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above!
On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 15:36 +0000, mephi wrote:
Also, I'm in the process of trying to get Rsync over SSH working on windows, so I can remotely backup my parent's PC. It's not working yet, has anyone done this before?
Yes there are however some problems getting it to work for any file larger than 2GB (seems to be more of a limitation with cygwin than anything else) There are binaries here http://optics.ph.unimelb.edu.au/help/rsync/rsync_pc1.html but they are pretty ancient, so it may be worth searching down newer versions. Personally as even the author of this site now suggests I would consider using Unison instead.
I've found that page, and a couple of others that all gave conflicting advice :-) Thankfully, that page seems to be right, and it's working now :-) So I've got command line backups from a windows machine. The next step will be to automate them so it doesn't ask for a password (I'm currently failing to get key authentication working, but I think it may have something to do with my chrooted jails) Once that's done I'll knock up a quick VB gui to allow my parents to pick the directories that they want backed up. Matt -----Original Message----- From: main-bounces@lists.alug.org.uk [mailto:main-bounces@lists.alug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Wayne Stallwood Sent: 24 February 2007 12:22 To: ALUG Subject: RE: [ALUG] Simple backup solutions On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 15:36 +0000, mephi wrote:
Also, I'm in the process of trying to get Rsync over SSH working on windows, so I can remotely backup my parent's PC. It's not working yet, has anyone done this before?
Yes there are however some problems getting it to work for any file larger than 2GB (seems to be more of a limitation with cygwin than anything else) There are binaries here http://optics.ph.unimelb.edu.au/help/rsync/rsync_pc1.html but they are pretty ancient, so it may be worth searching down newer versions. Personally as even the author of this site now suggests I would consider using Unison instead. _______________________________________________ main@lists.alug.org.uk http://www.alug.org.uk/ http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above!
Eur Ing Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
I'm looking for something a bit more friendly (and clever) than just tar or rsync but nowhere near as big and complex as backupbuddy or backupPC. So is there anything 'in between'?
Consider rsnapshot and bacula IMO. -- MJ Ray - see/vidu http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html Webmaster/web developer, statistician, sysadmin, trainer, koha dev, GNU/Linux, debian, gobolinux, gnustep, online shops, mailing lists. Near Weston-super-Mare, Somerset, England. http://www.ttllp.co.uk/
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