I finally got a reply through someone I know at college offering this course back then in January (Was it January?).
The reply was this:
"Sorry to take so long to reply, I have been off sick. I am afraid that we have had insufficient numbers to run the courses this summer term so the next start date is September."
Hope that helps.
C
On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 02:01:50PM +0100, Craig wrote:
I finally got a reply through someone I know at college offering this course back then in January (Was it January?).
The reply was this:
"Sorry to take so long to reply, I have been off sick. I am afraid that we have had insufficient numbers to run the courses this summer term so the next start date is September."
Hehe,
I applied for an access course in engineering last year at CCN "it won't run, it never does we are just gauging if people want to do it" then I applied for a Network design and Cisco course at CCN to be told "we don't have sufficient numbers so neither of these courses will run" and now you tell me this. I wonder if they actually run *any* courses other than clait and ECDL :) (apparently the next best thing to studying networking according to the information centre)
Adam
On 1 Apr 2004, at 14:35, adam@thebowery.co.uk wrote:
I applied for an access course in engineering last year at CCN "it won't run, it never does we are just gauging if people want to do it" then I applied for a Network design and Cisco course at CCN to be told "we don't have sufficient numbers so neither of these courses will run" and now you tell me this. I wonder if they actually run *any* courses other than clait and ECDL :) (apparently the next best thing to studying networking according to the information centre)
Cisco course? I am pondering to go for that this september (one year only) and I have been told that many people are going to go on it (Oh really ;). Is it CCNA?
There are no real courses at CCN. They like to waste advertising space/money ;)
C
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 08:34:41AM +0100, Craig wrote:
Cisco course? I am pondering to go for that this september (one year only) and I have been told that many people are going to go on it (Oh really ;). Is it CCNA?
Its Cisco network academy, which basically means you should be able to pass the CCNA exam at the end but have to pay for it yourself and I don't think that the college will provide you with too much help to pass the exam. I am also a bit confused about the funding/fees for the course as CCN have told me that you will have to pay £350 (someone told me it would be £1300 but I think that was the price last year) then again I have a letter on my desk from The minister of state for work and he claims that the course will be free if you are unemployed but I know this to be very untrue (unless things have changed in the past week or two, and he has also made some very dubious claims about help available while you are unemployed)
Hmmmm, I have been told lots of things about Cisco courses by CCN from "the course will definetly be running" to the line "oh no, the course won't run" in the space of about 24 hours, all told the easiest thing would be to buy the nice shiny hardback Cisco books for £90 and not bother with CCN imho, they were a very professional bunch of timewasters it took them a month to actually give me any idea what was going on :) and from what I was told the course is 1 day a week practical labs and "lots of reading" so I wouldn't be surprised if you paid whatever fees to get hold of £90 worth of books that you will sit at home reading while trying to get your CCNA... For £350 you could buy the books and a few old routers to study with and do it in your free time. At least thats now my plan.
There are no real courses at CCN. They like to waste advertising space/money ;)
Aye, this appears to be true :) Does anyone else fancy setting up a college?
Adam
On 2 Apr 2004, at 10:33, adam@thebowery.co.uk wrote:
Its Cisco network academy, which basically means you should be able to pass the CCNA exam at the end but have to pay for it yourself and I don't think that the college will provide you with too much help to pass the exam. I am also a bit confused about the funding/fees for the course as CCN have told me that you will have to pay £350 (someone told me it would be £1300 but I think that was the price last year) then again I have a letter on my desk from The minister of state for work and he claims that the course will be free if you are unemployed but I know this to be very untrue (unless things have changed in the past week or two, and he has also made some very dubious claims about help available while you are unemployed)
Yep, that's the one. I was planning to do one this September. However, it is all self taught like you said (Using Internet + Cisco routers at CCN). The funding fee for a year course is actually around £1000. Remember that's a YEAR. And you get to spend a friday at the college learning (which you've already stated below).
Interesting about the unemployment part... Sounds like rumours.
Hmmmm, I have been told lots of things about Cisco courses by CCN from "the course will definetly be running" to the line "oh no, the course won't run" in the space of about 24 hours, all told the easiest thing would be to buy the nice shiny hardback Cisco books for £90 and not bother with CCN imho, they were a very professional bunch of timewasters it took them a month to actually give me any idea what was going on :) and from what I was told the course is 1 day a week practical labs and "lots of reading" so I wouldn't be surprised if you paid whatever fees to get hold of £90 worth of books that you will sit at home reading while trying to get your CCNA... For £350 you could buy the books and a few old routers to study with and do it in your free time. At least thats now my plan.
Sean Mac who was one of my lecturers when I was on a course at CCN said you can learn at home as well.. But Cisco routers are costly right? (Unless I can go trawling on ebay). Just seems that probably 50% of the money is going to the lecturers saying a lot of rubbish? ;)
There are no real courses at CCN. They like to waste advertising space/money ;)
Aye, this appears to be true :) Does anyone else fancy setting up a college?
Should be easy enough ;)
C
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 10:58:49AM +0100, Craig wrote:
Yep, that's the one. I was planning to do one this September. However, it is all self taught like you said (Using Internet + Cisco routers at CCN). The funding fee for a year course is actually around £1000. Remember that's a YEAR. And you get to spend a friday at the college learning (which you've already stated below).
I was told by the head of the computing centre that the price for the course will drop to £350 by autumn as it has been recognised by the LSC as a accredited qualification, (or something similar I don't recall the exact details) I would speak to them nearer the time if I were you as I have had so many stories I honestly don't think they know :)
Sean Mac who was one of my lecturers when I was on a course at CCN said you can learn at home as well.. But Cisco routers are costly right? (Unless I can go trawling on ebay). Just seems that probably 50% of the money is going to the lecturers saying a lot of rubbish? ;)
Old routers like the 2501 usually sell for less than 100 quid on ebay (especially low spec models which is all you need) and the same for old Catalyst switches. I just did a quick search on Ebay and turned this up http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3088531236&cate... which suggests the prices if you don't want to wait and shop around, of course when you have finished your study you can sell off the kit again on Ebay to some other person who wants to study CCNA.
Ok, you don't get to play with all the latest kit but the Cisco books I bought myself recently come with the simulators so I am pretty sure that you could get everything for quite cheap if you were determined (and if CCN are going to charge ~£1000 then that would buy lots of Cisco kit :)) The only other thing you want to look out for is that things like X.25 cables and AUI dongles can be a bit pricey (well, not hugely so but could add upto 20% onto the price of your home made lab) so try to make sure you get them included when you buy routers etc.
Adam
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There are no real courses at CCN. They like to waste advertising space/money ;)
Aye, this appears to be true :) Does anyone else fancy setting up a college?
When I asked about courses some eight years ago no-one I spoke to had even heard of Linux. They've come a long way in eight years, then.
On 2 Apr 2004, at 11:29, Anthony Anson wrote:
When I asked about courses some eight years ago no-one I spoke to had even heard of Linux. They've come a long way in eight years, then.
1996? Which distro was out in 1996... slackware. Got to be since I remember playing on those at the college.
C
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On 2 Apr 2004, at 11:29, Anthony Anson wrote:
When I asked about courses some eight years ago no-one I spoke to had even heard of Linux. They've come a long way in eight years, then.
1996? Which distro was out in 1996... slackware. Got to be since I remember playing on those at the college.
Linux-FT.
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