Debian is my friend .... I think
Hi all, been a while since I posted something along these lines but here goes... Last night I finally ditched a DeadRat 6.2 installation (needed cleaning up anyway) and moved to a debian potato installation (bargain from Linux Expo..... free beer as well!). Install was nice and easy except : 1)loved the way apt can just plough through your CDs and catalogue all the packages (during the install), but how do you get it to do this in normal running (I thought I had the idea but ended up breaking apt!), ie I want it to now search through the rest of my catalogue of CDs. 2)Having broken apt by replacing the file:/file/binary/for/install/disk1 line with something that doesn't work is there a quick way to get it back. Or can I just tell apt to go search my CDs again (re: 1). 3)dselect is all very well but I would prefer a nice way to group say all X Packages together. Perhaps I'm missing something. 4)Where is XConfigurator ? I tried to be a bit clever last night but think I would have been better to play novice - quiet at the back!! ;o) and let debian do everything. Anyways, any thoughts, experiences or hints and tips to assist in making my transfer to the king of Distros as painless as possible much appreciated. Pllllllease no "RTFM"s, I am reading it but time is a pre-requisite, so if you just write and say "RTFM under apt section on blah" I'll still be grateful for the pointer. Cheers, Earl
On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Earl Brannigan wrote:
Last night I finally ditched a DeadRat 6.2 installation (needed cleaning up anyway) and moved to a debian potato installation (bargain from Linux Expo..... free beer as well!).
Congratulations!
1)loved the way apt can just plough through your CDs and catalogue all the packages (during the install), but how do you get it to do this in normal running (I thought I had the idea but ended up breaking apt!), ie I want it to now search through the rest of my catalogue of CDs.
Ok, debian's package management only works for debian archives/cds. You can edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list and add additional CDs if you want, or just use the net. I recommend the following lines: # Stable deb ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/non-US stable non-US/main non-US/contrib non-US/non-free # Testing Source deb-src ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free deb-src ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/non-US testing non-US/main non-US/contrib non-US/non-free # Security deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free To tell apt it has new archives, use: apt-get update
2)Having broken apt by replacing the file:/file/binary/for/install/disk1 line with something that doesn't work is there a quick way to get it back. Or can I just tell apt to go search my CDs again (re: 1).
Again, edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file. The CD line should be something like: deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r3 _Potato_ - Official i386 Binary-1 (20010427)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main
3)dselect is all very well but I would prefer a nice way to group say all X Packages together. Perhaps I'm missing something.
Tasks often do this for you. eg task-gnome-desktop, task-games.
4)Where is XConfigurator ?
In Debian r2.2, you are best off with XF86Setup.
Anyways, any thoughts, experiences or hints and tips to assist in making my transfer to the king of Distros as painless as possible much appreciated.
Ok, if you need more up-to-date software, grab the source from the testing archive and build it locally. Gives you the benefit of latest software on a rock-solid platform. Try: apt-get -b source antiword (assuming you've added the deb-src lines to sources.list) Andrew. -- All views are my own .... who else would want them?
On 4 Sep, Andrew John Savory wrote:
Again, edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file. The CD line should be something like: deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r3 _Potato_ - Official i386 Binary-1 (20010427)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main
I think using apt-cdrom is a better idea. Remove all the cdrom lines, do an apt-get update ; apt-get clean, then apt-cdrom add them one at a time and it should work again.
3)dselect is all very well but I would prefer a nice way to group say all X Packages together. Perhaps I'm missing something. Tasks often do this for you. eg task-gnome-desktop, task-games.
Tasks are being rewritten in the next release, I think.
Ok, if you need more up-to-date software, grab the source from the testing archive and build it locally. Gives you the benefit of latest software on a rock-solid platform. Try: apt-get -b source antiword (assuming you've added the deb-src lines to sources.list)
... and have task-debian-devel or whatever it is installed. More on this at Syleham.
Hi again, Thanks Mark, from the 2 emails (yourself and Andrew) I think i'm well on my way with that.
Hi Andrew, Thanks alot - exactly what I was hoping for. Everyone I ever speak to about debian usually raves about apt at some oint - and I know there have been tons of posts of Alug about it in the past - (will peruse the archives later). Will let you know how it goes. Best Regards Earl
Hello y'all. [anon coward stepping outta shadows] As per leaving RH7.1 to climb aboard the righteous Debian wagon... I'm about to (after some help from MJR and AS at work) do this at home on a P 533 with RH7.1, where I've been trying all sorts of sound/music related stuff on it, but my main concern is a Toshiba laptop I use for work; it's running win2K, and I mean to do some sound on it. My poison is PD (www.pure-data.org). The laptop's got usual poor sound card - Yamaha AC-XG. The thing is, it is my work machine so I would probably get killed if I lost data, though of course I can back up to server, etc. Anyone have any experience on win2k/Debian dual-booting? Just how hard would it be to get an almost-risk-free system running that? I did it with DeadRat/win98 and NT, but that was I suspect NOT a rock-solid effort. Sound config on it would be OSS, since I bought the drivers.Yummy. cheers, David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew John Savory" <andrew@luminas.co.uk> To: "Earl Brannigan" <earl.brannigan@lindenhouse.co.uk> Cc: <main@lists.alug.org.uk> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [Alug] Debian is my friend .... I think
On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Earl Brannigan wrote:
Last night I finally ditched a DeadRat 6.2 installation (needed cleaning up anyway) and moved to a debian potato installation (bargain from Linux Expo..... free beer as well!).
Congratulations!
1)loved the way apt can just plough through your CDs and catalogue all the packages (during the install), but how do you get it to do this in normal running (I thought I had the idea but ended up breaking apt!), ie I want it to now search through the rest of my catalogue of CDs.
Ok, debian's package management only works for debian archives/cds. You can edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list and add additional CDs if you want, or just use the net. I recommend the following lines:
# Stable deb ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/non-US stable non-US/main non-US/contrib non-US/non-free
# Testing Source deb-src ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free deb-src ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/non-US testing non-US/main non-US/contrib non-US/non-free
# Security deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free
To tell apt it has new archives, use: apt-get update
2)Having broken apt by replacing the file:/file/binary/for/install/disk1 line with something that doesn't work is there a quick way to get it back. Or can I just tell apt to go search my CDs again (re: 1).
Again, edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file. The CD line should be something like:
deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r3 _Potato_ - Official i386 Binary-1 (20010427)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main
3)dselect is all very well but I would prefer a nice way to group say all X Packages together. Perhaps I'm missing something.
Tasks often do this for you. eg task-gnome-desktop, task-games.
4)Where is XConfigurator ?
In Debian r2.2, you are best off with XF86Setup.
Anyways, any thoughts, experiences or hints and tips to assist in making my transfer to the king of Distros as painless as possible much appreciated.
Ok, if you need more up-to-date software, grab the source from the testing archive and build it locally. Gives you the benefit of latest software on a rock-solid platform. Try:
apt-get -b source antiword
(assuming you've added the deb-src lines to sources.list)
Andrew.
-- All views are my own .... who else would want them?
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On 4 Sep, Earl Brannigan wrote:
3)dselect is all very well but I would prefer a nice way to group say all X Packages together. Perhaps I'm missing something.
stuff dselect... apt-get install console-apt... it's being replaced soon, but right now it's very much nicer than dselect.
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