Sunday 20 March
Constable Terrace Room A
Start at 14:00
Bring software, laptops, pcs, monitors, pdas, peripherals, cables, bits and pieces... Share and enjoy.
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Elisabeth E.Fosbrooke-brown@uea.ac.uk wrote:
Sunday 20 March
Constable Terrace Room A
Start at 14:00
Bring software, laptops, pcs, monitors, pdas, peripherals, cables, bits and pieces... Share and enjoy.
Or don't bring anything but yourselves, don't feel that you *have* to bring kit to attend a kit meet.
Biscuits are appreciated by all attendees though, as are hot cross buns, jaffa cakes... (we like snack food ;)
Anyways - I *might* have at least a partial debian mirror for i386 by then, and a full mirror of debian pure64 (only another 4G to go for that!). I might make some recent sarge debian-installer CDs too, or at least some images ready for burning should we need them ;)
If people could post back to the list to give us a feeling what they're bringing, what they might want, and wether they are turning up.
Cheers,
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If people could post back to the list to give us a feeling what they're bringing, what they might want, and wether they are turning up.
I'm likely to come, but being a fully paid-up Sheddi, I might not be able to bear to part with any of my hoarded tqt. [1]
There's even a little 'diary' file on the box now, which opens on boot-up, just so I don't forget.
[1] tqt - top quality tat.
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I'm likely to come, but being a fully paid-up Sheddi, I might not be able to bear to part with any of my hoarded tqt. [1]
Oh, I meant to sy I'd try to unforget to bring something like biccies or the Sheddi favourite, cheery cake.
I'm afraid I've finished the iced tea - laced with a pound of sugar, fermented, primed and bottled, and there's not time to molish another batch...
Hi all, I'm having a slight problem that I hope some of you 'techie's' can help me with. When I had Windows XP on this computer (home built, with Gigabyte motherboard, AMD Sempron 2400, G Force 4 graphics card with 128MB RAM, etc.) I installed the copy of Mandrakelinux 10.1 from the Linux Magazine cover DVD, and it installed fine, and work just as expected. However, I then put XP on anothe computer and decided to clean off the hard drive of this one and dedicate it to Linux. So I did all the FDISK stuff and cleaned off the partitions and MBR, and installed from scratch. Everything when well with the exeption of the display (monitor) settings, which is a Goodmans GV 700 17" TFT. Mandrake wouldn't recognise the monitor at all and wouldn't load the GUI (text mode only). So I decided to fdisk again and install an old copy of Red Hat (version 8). This installed fine but again didn't recognise the monitor. However, it did load the GUI but with a resolution of 800 x 600 only. By this time I had a copy of the new Linux Format with the latest copy of SUSE 9.2 on the DVD. So I fdisk'ed again and installed SUSE 9.2. Everything went well, a very easy installer that runs smoothly. No problems recognising all of my hardware, including my NTL broadband cable modem and Belkin router, as well as the graphics card. But!! Once again it wouldn't recognise the monitor and set it as a generic type. The resolution is again set to 800 x 600. I have been into the control centre (running KDE 3.3) but it won't allow me to change it from this setting, it doesn't even offer any options to this. I have been to the SUSE (Novell) website and downloaded all of the patches and updates. So, how do I get Linux to recognise my monitor, and change the settings? (it's capable of 1280 x 1024 by the way) When I had XP on this computer, I had Mandrake set at 1280 x 1024 with true colour and no problems. I would try selecting different monitor choices to see if any of them worked, but how do I do that? I can't seem to find a way of getting access to that information. I know this a long message, but I wanted to give as much detail as possible. I hope you can help. I'll happily spend time trying and changes etc. as you suggest, and I don't mind using the command line editor if this is the best way.
I await your replies with anticipated joy!!!
Regards all,
Peter
On Saturday 26 February 2005 21:48, peterslinuxbox@ntlworld.com wrote:
Hi all, I'm having a slight problem that I hope some of you 'techie's' can help me with.
(snip)
So, how do I get Linux to recognise my monitor, and change the settings? (it's capable of 1280 x 1024 by the way) When I had XP on this computer, I had Mandrake set at 1280 x 1024 with true colour and no problems. I would try selecting different monitor choices to see if any of them worked, but how do I do that? I can't seem to find a way of getting access to that information.
On SuSE 9.1 (haven't had the courage to do an upgrade just yet) I would try the following:
Fire up YAST and select the Hardware | Graphics card option. A window appears labelled Desktop Settings with radio buttons for Text mode and Graphical environments. Select the latter. Hit the Change button, which loads SaX2.
Click Monitor and you'll get a list of currently configured monitors. Click Properties for a list of supported monitor makes and models. On the left, scroll to the top and select LCD, then select the resolution you want from the list on the right. OK that then click Finalize. Do the Test as recommended and save the settings. If the Test gives a blank screen or a total mess, leave the system for 30 seconds and it will revert. If you like what you see click Save. I'm working from memory a little here since I don't want to mess up my own settings. but the procedure is pretty straightforward. Modern monitors are usually able to cope with generic settings; LCD for TFT panels and VESA for CRT monitors. I've yet to see any of mine catered for exactly so I pick something that looks close and see how it goes.
-- GT
On Saturday 26 February 2005 10:55 pm, Graham wrote:
On SuSE 9.1 (haven't had the courage to do an upgrade just yet) I would try the following:
Fire up YAST and select the Hardware | Graphics card option. A window appears labelled Desktop Settings with radio buttons for Text mode and Graphical environments. Select the latter. Hit the Change button, which loads SaX2.
Click Monitor and you'll get a list of currently configured monitors. Click Properties for a list of supported monitor makes and models. On the left, scroll to the top and select LCD, then select the resolution you want from the list on the right. OK that then click Finalize. Do the Test as recommended and save the settings. If the Test gives a blank screen or a total mess, leave the system for 30 seconds and it will revert. If you like what you see click Save. I'm working from memory a little here since I don't want to mess up my own settings. but the procedure is pretty straightforward. Modern monitors are usually able to cope with generic settings; LCD for TFT panels and VESA for CRT monitors. I've yet to see any of mine catered for exactly so I pick something that looks close and see how it goes.
-- GT
If that doesn't work post the contents of your XF86Config file (found in /etc/X11) so that we can have a look at it.
But as Graham says, SaX should sort it.
Wayne, Ricky and Graham, Thank you all very much. Your suggestions, Graham, did the trick. Although I could only get it to work - at the moment! - at 1024 x 768, it is a great improvement. I discovered that the graphics card was set as a generic card as well, so I changed that (although it didn't have my exact card). I have found out a lot from this exercise. I will probe deeper when I have a bit more time. I also changed one or two other things after this worked, so I will be going back there a bit more. I will also look for and read through the XF86 config file as soon as I can. When in XP I always edit the registry manually, so I'll be doing a lot of experimenting in time. Hope I don't mess things up too much!! Still, that's what learning is all about.
Thanks again folks. Glad I joined this group now.
Regards
Peter
On Sunday 27 February 2005 00:01, Wayne Stallwood wrote:
On Saturday 26 February 2005 10:55 pm, Graham wrote:
On SuSE 9.1 (haven't had the courage to do an upgrade just yet) I would try the following:
Fire up YAST and select the Hardware | Graphics card option. A window appears labelled Desktop Settings with radio buttons for Text mode and Graphical environments. Select the latter. Hit the Change button, which loads SaX2.
Click Monitor and you'll get a list of currently configured monitors. Click Properties for a list of supported monitor makes and models. On the left, scroll to the top and select LCD, then select the resolution you want from the list on the right. OK that then click Finalize. Do the Test as recommended and save the settings. If the Test gives a blank screen or a total mess, leave the system for 30 seconds and it will revert. If you like what you see click Save. I'm working from memory a little here since I don't want to mess up my own settings. but the procedure is pretty straightforward. Modern monitors are usually able to cope with generic settings; LCD for TFT panels and VESA for CRT monitors. I've yet to see any of mine catered for exactly so I pick something that looks close and see how it goes.
-- GT
If that doesn't work post the contents of your XF86Config file (found in /etc/X11) so that we can have a look at it.
But as Graham says, SaX should sort it.
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On Sunday 27 February 2005 12:08 am, peterslinuxbox@ntlworld.com wrote:
Wayne, Ricky and Graham, Thank you all very much. Your suggestions, Graham, did the trick. Although I could only get it to work - at the moment! - at 1024 x 768, it is a great improvement. I discovered that the graphics card was set as a generic card as well, so I changed that (although it didn't have my exact card). I have found out a lot from this exercise. I will probe deeper when I have a bit more time. I also changed one or two other things after this worked, so I will be going back there a bit more. I will also look for and read through the XF86 config file as soon as I can. When in XP I always edit the registry manually, so I'll be doing a lot of experimenting in time. Hope I don't mess things up too much!! Still, that's what learning is all about.
A couple of tips for messing about with X and things like screen resolutions that you may already have learnt.
If you are messing about with the configuration files for X windows then you can restart the windowing system without rebooting the whole machine by issuing either a CTRL-ALT-Backspace or by switching the runlevel.
To switch Runlevels issue (as root) an init 3 from the console to stop the windowing system and run in Console mode. and a init 5 to start the windowing system again.
I only mention this as it's not always that obvious when comming from the world of windows that you can restart the GUI without rebooting.
Another thing is that if you are planning a good session of mucking about then take a copy of the /etc folder while the machine is still working. It's pretty hard to break thing to the point that you can't get the system to restart somehow and with a copy of your working configuration you can save yourself the bother of reinstallation.
On Sunday 27 February 2005 00:57, Wayne Stallwood wrote:
On Sunday 27 February 2005 12:08 am, peterslinuxbox@ntlworld.com wrote:
Wayne, Ricky and Graham, Thank you all very much. Your suggestions, Graham, did the trick. Although I could only get it to work - at the moment! - at 1024 x 768, it is a great improvement. I discovered that the graphics card was set as a generic card as well, so I changed that (although it didn't have my exact card). I have found out a lot from this exercise. I will probe deeper when I have a bit more time. I also changed one or two other things after this worked, so I will be going back there a bit more. I will also look for and read through the XF86 config file as soon as I can. When in XP I always edit the registry manually, so I'll be doing a lot of experimenting in time. Hope I don't mess things up too much!! Still, that's what learning is all about.
A couple of tips for messing about with X and things like screen resolutions that you may already have learnt.
If you are messing about with the configuration files for X windows then you can restart the windowing system without rebooting the whole machine by issuing either a CTRL-ALT-Backspace or by switching the runlevel.
To switch Runlevels issue (as root) an init 3 from the console to stop the windowing system and run in Console mode. and a init 5 to start the windowing system again.
I only mention this as it's not always that obvious when comming from the world of windows that you can restart the GUI without rebooting.
Another thing is that if you are planning a good session of mucking about then take a copy of the /etc folder while the machine is still working. It's pretty hard to break thing to the point that you can't get the system to restart somehow and with a copy of your working configuration you can save yourself the bother of reinstallation.
Thanks for this info and advice. I'll be looking into all of this. Good to know you can re-boot the GUI without having to re-boot the whole computer. Now why didn't Bill Gates think of that?
Well, off to bed now, so I'll play some more tomorrow.
Cheers all,
Peter
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Hi everyone, it's me again.
Can anyone tell me how to change the settings in KMail please?
I want to tell KMail how often to check for new mail etc.
TIA
Regards
Peter
On Sunday 27 February 2005 12:15 am, Peter Hunter wrote:
Hi everyone, it's me again.
Can anyone tell me how to change the settings in KMail please?
I want to tell KMail how often to check for new mail etc.
TIA
Regards
Peter
Within Kmail, go to Settings menu, bottom option is "configure kmail" From there if you wanted to change the mail check interval for example you would go to network (confusing I know but it's because the mail collection interval is account specific which is a good thing)
Go to the receiving tab, highlight your account and click modify make sure the interval is enabled and set the interval somewhere near the bottom.
On Sunday 27 February 2005 00:40, Wayne Stallwood wrote:
On Sunday 27 February 2005 12:15 am, Peter Hunter wrote:
Hi everyone, it's me again.
Can anyone tell me how to change the settings in KMail please?
I want to tell KMail how often to check for new mail etc.
TIA
Regards
Peter
Within Kmail, go to Settings menu, bottom option is "configure kmail" From there if you wanted to change the mail check interval for example you would go to network (confusing I know but it's because the mail collection interval is account specific which is a good thing)
Go to the receiving tab, highlight your account and click modify make sure the interval is enabled and set the interval somewhere near the bottom.
Fantastic. Thanks again Wayne. No wonder I couldn't find it!
Cheers
Peter
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On Fri, 25 Feb 2005, Brett Parker wrote:
Or don't bring anything but yourselves, don't feel that you *have* to bring kit to attend a kit meet.
Biscuits are appreciated by all attendees though, as are hot cross buns, jaffa cakes... (we like snack food ;)
Anyways - I *might* have at least a partial debian mirror for i386 by then, and a full mirror of debian pure64 (only another 4G to go for that!). I might make some recent sarge debian-installer CDs too, or at least some images ready for burning should we need them ;)
If people could post back to the list to give us a feeling what they're bringing, what they might want, and wether they are turning up.
I've got my home machine, which has fristrated me by being apparently un-Linuxable. What is most galling is that 98 works fine. I'd love to bring it along if anybody feels like a challenge.
I've also got a coffee machine in my office I could bring if a supply of free tasty cafinated beverage would be appreciated.
Michael Morton
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Mike Morton mtm@cmp.uea.ac.uk wrote:
I've got my home machine, which has fristrated me by being apparently un-Linuxable. What is most galling is that 98 works fine. I'd love to bring it along if anybody feels like a challenge.
Sounds like a challenge that, any ideas on make/model, processor, IDE controllers etc?
Cheers, - -- Brett Parker web: http://www.sommitrealweird.co.uk/ email: iDunno@sommitrealweird.co.uk
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, Brett Parker wrote:
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Mike Morton mtm@cmp.uea.ac.uk wrote:
I've got my home machine, which has fristrated me by being apparently un-Linuxable. What is most galling is that 98 works fine. I'd love to bring it along if anybody feels like a challenge.
Sounds like a challenge that, any ideas on make/model, processor, IDE controllers etc?
K6-2 500. Gigabyte GA511 mb with an Aliance M5229 IDE controller. I suspect it's that as Knoppix works fine.
The installation process (on all of the half-dozen other distros I've tried) goes belly up about half way through.
Michael Morton
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Mike Morton writes:
The installation process (on all of the half-dozen other distros I've tried) goes belly up about half way through.
Have you tried Mepis (www.mepis.com)? I've just found it, and started playing with it, and it seems very good at hardware detection. It's a Live CD which can then be used to install, so if the live CD works the install should do. Debian based. Second most popular (hits per page) disto at distrowatch this month, on the Linux Format cover DVD this month (although there's a newer version on the Mepis site).
Mark Rogers, More Solutions Ltd
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I've got my home machine, which has fristrated me by being apparently un-Linuxable. What is most galling is that 98 works fine. I'd love to bring it along if anybody feels like a challenge.
I've also got a coffee machine in my office I could bring if a supply of free tasty cafinated beverage would be appreciated.
If people can get Linux working on an X-box, and on my box, which is a mixture od SCSI and IDE, and won't load Win 2000 Pro, I'm sure someone will be able to crowbar some flavour of Linux onto it, even if it's not of coffee.
I'm intending to make the trip up to Norwich for this...
If anyone between Colchester and Norwich wants a lift let me know.
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