Hi Guys,
OOo v.2.0 is available from website - not sure whether full or beta or whether Linux (surely?) or Win. It is promised for May in an editorial in a Linux mag I browsed in the only place in Colchester you can browse Linux - W.H.Smiths.
So, what should be my first step in migrating from MS? Partition my hard drive? How??? I understand Linux wants two partitions so do I divide my HD, half each for Win and Linux, then re-partition the Linux lump? The instructions with a Linux prog disk seem extraordinarily complicated. Like it wants to frighten me away rather than induce me to dip my toes! I have one of these bootable disks with a working Linux but it only appears to see the apps on the disk and built in - Mandrake I think.
Cheers,
BD.
On Tuesday 19 April 2005 09:10, Bob Dove wrote:
Hi Guys,
OOo v.2.0 is available from website - not sure whether full or beta or whether Linux (surely?) or Win. It is promised for May in an editorial in a Linux mag I browsed in the only place in Colchester you can browse Linux - W.H.Smiths.
So, what should be my first step in migrating from MS? Partition my hard drive? How??? I understand Linux wants two partitions so do I divide my HD, half each for Win and Linux, then re-partition the Linux lump? The instructions with a Linux prog disk seem extraordinarily complicated. Like it wants to frighten me away rather than induce me to dip my toes! I have one of these bootable disks with a working Linux but it only appears to see the apps on the disk and built in - Mandrake I think.
Cheers,
BD.
Not sure if I missed an earlier post here, but I would say if your Linux distro expects you to understand partitioning it's probably aimed at geeks (sorry, experts). The mainstream ones know all about pre-existing Windows partitions and also how much space each Linux partition needs, and don't expect you to dream up numbers. My favourite is SuSE; if you have broadband (and if you haven't, why not?) you can download a small CD boot image and do the rest by FTP. The instructions for getting running are simple but I won't waste space here; if you need to know just ask.
-- GT
On Tuesday 19 April 2005 7:26 pm, Graham wrote:
My favourite is SuSE; if you have broadband (and if you haven't, why not?) you can download a small CD boot image and do the rest by FTP. The instructions for getting running are simple but I won't waste space here; if you need to know just ask.
I like SuSE too, but a word of advice.... At the moment the ftp server ftp.suse.com seems a little unreliable, the last few times I have tried to use it, it has unexpectedly gone off-line.
This in itself wouldn't be so much of a problem except that YaST can fail rather ungracefully if it looses the ftp server halfway through an installation.
I use anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/suse/
or pick one from this list http://www.novell.com/products/linuxprofessional/downloads/ftp/int_mirrors.h...
On Tuesday 19 April 2005 23:42, Wayne Stallwood wrote:
I like SuSE too, but a word of advice.... At the moment the ftp server ftp.suse.com seems a little unreliable, the last few times I have tried to use it, it has unexpectedly gone off-line.
When I looked last night it wasn't taking any more connections, though it did have the grace to say so rather than simply fall over.
-- GT
On 4/20/05, Graham gt@pobox.com wrote:
On Tuesday 19 April 2005 23:42, Wayne Stallwood wrote:
I like SuSE too, but a word of advice.... At the moment the ftp server ftp.suse.com seems a little unreliable, the last few times I have tried to use it, it has unexpectedly gone off-line.
When I looked last night it wasn't taking any more connections, though it did have the grace to say so rather than simply fall over.
How about BitTorrenting the iso images? A good way to get the latest when everyone wants it too.
Tim.
On Wednesday 20 April 2005 20:37, Tim Green wrote:
On 4/20/05, Graham gt@pobox.com wrote:
On Tuesday 19 April 2005 23:42, Wayne Stallwood wrote:
I like SuSE too, but a word of advice.... At the moment the ftp server ftp.suse.com seems a little unreliable, the last few times I have tried to use it, it has unexpectedly gone off-line.
When I looked last night it wasn't taking any more connections, though it did have the grace to say so rather than simply fall over.
How about BitTorrenting the iso images? A good way to get the latest when everyone wants it too.
Tim.
I'm not with you. The CD/DVD images available are a 3.1GB DVD and a 64MB boot CD. Unless you have lots of machines to install it's simplest to use the boot CD to install direct from the FTP server and from other sources such as PackMan. My favourite is the UK Mirror Service, on the list indicated by Wayne. A default build is around 1.5GB, only half the DVD.
The whole of SuSE 9.2 can be obtained by a single wget and placed on a local NFS or FTP server for installation, but at over 13GB it'll take a good while to download.
Not sure what you meant about BitTorrent - I associate that with peer-peer file sharing, an unnecessarily slow way of getting stuff that's already freely available on fast servers.
-- GT
On 4/20/05, Graham gt@pobox.com wrote:
On Wednesday 20 April 2005 20:37, Tim Green wrote:
How about BitTorrenting the iso images? A good way to get the latest when everyone wants it too.
I'm not with you. The CD/DVD images available are a 3.1GB DVD and a 64MB boot CD. Unless you have lots of machines to install it's simplest to use the boot CD to install direct from the FTP server and from other sources such as PackMan. My favourite is the UK Mirror Service, on the list indicated by Wayne. A default build is around 1.5GB, only half the DVD.
I was thinking of the recent release of Ubuntu as a prime example. One CD of about 700MB contains just about everything you need to boot, install and get to work.
Not sure what you meant about BitTorrent - I associate that with peer-peer file sharing, an unnecessarily slow way of getting stuff that's already freely available on fast servers.
You might think they're fast servers, but when one's distribution is flavour of the month there is a lot of bandwidth chewed up in a short space of time. BitTorrent takes the pressure off by sharing the bandwidth, and I from my experience it downloads at the full speed of one's line. BitTorrent works best with flavours of the month, because the sharing improves when more people try to download at the same time.
Tim.
On Thursday 21 April 2005 22:04, Tim Green wrote:
I was thinking of the recent release of Ubuntu as a prime example. One CD of about 700MB contains just about everything you need to boot, install and get to work.
Any distribution of that size is bound to be selective, leaving out anything not essential to its perceived target market. So I wouldn't expect to see - for example - a full development environment or lots of multimedia. Of course, not everyone wants these things, and that's fine, but if you have more eclectic needs you'll be doing a lot of downloading anyway, so it makes more sense to do a full FTP install and get just what you want.
-- GT
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On Thursday 21 April 2005 22:04, Tim Green wrote:
I was thinking of the recent release of Ubuntu as a prime example. One CD of about 700MB contains just about everything you need to boot, install and get to work.
Any distribution of that size is bound to be selective, leaving out anything not essential to its perceived target market. So I wouldn't expect to see - for example - a full development environment or lots of multimedia. Of course, not everyone wants these things, and that's fine, but if you have more eclectic needs you'll be doing a lot of downloading anyway, so it makes more sense to do a full FTP install and get just what you want.
I take the opposite view, preferring a 'pocket OS' and adding apps as they are needed. I seem to be doing very nicely with all my multimedia still unmolested on the CDs of the distro. (For boring values of 'nicely')
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