Hi,
I have decieded to take the plunge and get ADSL.
What I want to know is , has anybody managed to get the PPPoATM module for PPPD to compile? I've tried and can't make the _______ (insert your own expletive here) work.
I was wondering about getting the Zyxel Prestiege 645R ADSL router, as that supports PPPoE and I have software for that. Will this do PPPoE to PPPoATM translation? I couldn't find any usefull information on their website.
I want to continue using my existing Linux machine as a firewall, as I also want to be able to access it from certain restricted site.
What ADSL hardware do you use, and have you made it work with Linux, and how?
Thanks in advance Chris
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Chris Glover chris@glovercc.clara.co.uk wrote:
What ADSL hardware do you use, and have you made it work with Linux, and how?
Speedtouch USB, using the "Benoit" drivers and a firmware file from the CD, a kernel with the N_HDLC bug fix (2.2.19pre3 or later, IIRC) and a normal pppd. I'd read far too many horror stories about the kernel patch to try it, including that it breaks normal PPP (which is handy for when the BT exchange kit dies -- again).
On Fri, 17 May 2002, MJ Ray wrote:
Chris Glover chris@glovercc.clara.co.uk wrote:
What ADSL hardware do you use, and have you made it work with Linux, and how?
Speedtouch USB, using the "Benoit" drivers and a firmware file from the CD, a kernel with the N_HDLC bug fix (2.2.19pre3 or later, IIRC) and a normal pppd. I'd read far too many horror stories about the kernel patch to try it, including that it breaks normal PPP (which is handy for when the BT exchange kit dies -- again).
I forgot to mention I do not trust USB as far as I could throw it, that's why I am looking for an ethernet solution.
So back to my original question, has anybody managed to get PPPoATM library to compile, if so, which headers from the kernel tree did you have to copy.
I forgot to mention I do not trust USB as far as I could throw it, that's why I am looking for an ethernet solution.
So back to my original question, has anybody managed to get PPPoATM library to compile, if so, which headers from the kernel tree did you have to copy.
I might have missed something here, but why do you need the PPPoATM library? If you order ADSL with Ethernet presentation, the company will most likely send you a router/hub. Connect your machine to the router/hub. You can setup your machine to use the router as a gateway on its ethernet setup.
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On Sat, 18 May 2002, Ashley wrote:
I forgot to mention I do not trust USB as far as I could throw it, that's why I am looking for an ethernet solution.
So back to my original question, has anybody managed to get PPPoATM library to compile, if so, which headers from the kernel tree did you have to copy.
I might have missed something here, but why do you need the PPPoATM library? If you order ADSL with Ethernet presentation, the company will most likely send you a router/hub. Connect your machine to the router/hub. You can setup your machine to use the router as a gateway on its ethernet setup.
The reasons I need PPPoATM is thus...
1.) I don't trust USB becuase I have NEVER seen it work reliably under windows or linux.
2.) I have a spare ethernet card in the Linux PC so... I am going to get an ADSL Router with ethernet, as I will be getting "wires only" ADSL.
3.) In order to avoid using NAT on the router, as the linux machine already does this for me, and I'm not sure how NATing data twice will affect it.
4.) To get the IP address issued by my ISP to appear as my linux machine instead of the router, I need to use PPTP, as I will be getting a router that supports this. In order for PPTP to work, I need a version of pppd with the PPPoATM add-on module. But at the moment I can't compile the bastard module, and I've tried several times, after much searching on the net for information.
Surely somebody on this list has an ADSL setup without using the pile of S*** that is USB.
Could I just set my Linux machine to be a normal router, and use the ADSL router to do the NATing? I still want to be able to access the Linux machine from the outside world. I frequently telnet in from work. I know about the security issues, but I have restricted what machines can connect to it.
Many Thanks
Chris
Surely somebody on this list has an ADSL setup without using the pile of S*** that is USB.
Yes, at work we have ADSL without USB. We got it from COLT (www.oncolt.com) and it has ethernet presentation.
Could I just set my Linux machine to be a normal router, and use the ADSL router to do the NATing? I still want to be able to access the Linux machine from the outside world. I frequently telnet in from work. I know about the security issues, but I have restricted what machines can connect to it.
When we ordered, we were given the option of NAT or non-NAT. We choose NAT, but the non-NAT setup should allow you to connect to your linux box from the outside world. When I originally asked COLT about non-NAT, they said they would assign us a bunch of public IPs for our machines. AFAIK, this would allow external connections direct to the machines.
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Chris Glover chris@glovercc.clara.co.uk wrote:
1.) I don't trust USB becuase I have NEVER seen it work reliably under windows or linux.
It works as reliably as the rest of my peripherals. Being able to hotplug it reliably is a big plus, too, when trying to debug crap hardware. Maybe the drivers have improved since you last tried it?
3.) In order to avoid using NAT on the router, as the linux machine already does this for me, and I'm not sure how NATing data twice will affect it.
It'll be as fine as NATing it once.
Chris Glover chris@glovercc.clara.co.uk wrote:
I forgot to mention I do not trust USB as far as I could throw it, that's why I am looking for an ethernet solution.
Yes, it's a little buggy, but it's well understood and quite easy to debug. If you're getting ethernet presentation, why are you trying to run PPPoATM?
So back to my original question, has anybody managed to get PPPoATM library to compile, if so, which headers from the kernel tree did you have to copy.
But anyway, can't use the pppoa tools the same as with the USB, as I thought the modem_run just presented an ATM connection on a PTY to the PC? I guess the problem is getting the ATM to be connected to a PTY if that isn't how it normally comes in. The PPPoATM kernel module seemed to be buggy, as I said, while pppd is fairly well tested.
Chris Glover chris@glovercc.clara.co.uk wrote:
What ADSL hardware do you use, and have you made it work with
Linux, and
how?
I personally am attempting to use a bridging firewall along with a cheap ADSL router but that's only as I wish to use multi-IPs.
I forgot to mention I do not trust USB as far as I could throw it,
that's
why I am looking for an ethernet solution.
So back to my original question, has anybody managed to get PPPoATM library to compile, if so, which headers from the kernel tree did you
have
to copy.
Are you trying to use PPTP as a tunnel between the ADSL router and the linuxbox? If so all you would need is the pptp-client and possibly the mppe to setup the tunnel, (This would require the router to support PPTP aswell and PPPoATM/PPPoE wouldn't be necessary).
Have a look at the documentation at http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/
Cheers
David.
On Sun, 19 May 2002, David Fairey wrote:
Are you trying to use PPTP as a tunnel between the ADSL router and the linuxbox? If so all you would need is the pptp-client and possibly the mppe to setup the tunnel, (This would require the router to support PPTP aswell and PPPoATM/PPPoE wouldn't be necessary).
I'm getting an Alcatel speed touch pro that does support PPTP. I have the PPTP client already. I did a search for Speedtouch Pro last night, and it seems a few people have got it working with Linux with relative ease.
I'm so glad I don't have to get PPPoATM to compile :-)
Thanks
Chris
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