* From: Mark J Ray h089@uea.ac.uk
Argh. Just found I did a typo in my message, so it bounced horribly because I'm not a list member...
Hi everyone,
Thanks for your interest in the Anglian Linux User Group. This email list has been set up for general discussion about ALUG. Please check that this is what appears in your from line, else you can't send to this list: laurie@brownowl.com daniel@capricorn1.demon.co.uk A.J.Savory@uea.ac.uk Paul.Russell@uea.ac.uk W.B.Hill@uea.ac.uk eric@sponsystems.freeserve.co.uk livia@neosaur.demon.co.uk h089@uea.ac.uk D.Casal@uea.ac.uk phil@marcmstr.demon.co.uk dermot.musgrove@virgin.net richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk jg@cyberstorm.demon.co.uk newspost@ttfn35.freeserve.co.uk raph@panache.demon.co.uk martyn@drake.org.uk
The welcome message for this list is: * A N G L I A N L I N U X U S E R G R O U P *
This is the general discussion list alug@stu.uea.ac.uk. We welcome all help in organising the ALUG. Hopefully, this will be the main place for that. While we are not against general Linux discussion, the newsgroup uk.comp.os.linux may be more helpful/appropriate.
If you wish to get announcements of events only, please leave this list by sending "unsubscribe" in the subject line to this list and send "subscribe" in the subject line to alug-announce@stu.uea.ac.uk, without the quotes, of course.
All messages sent to the announcements list are also sent to this list by default. ---END---
Hopefully, this list will do most of the event organising, as who has free time will doubtless vary from month to month. As some of you may know, Laurie has offered Melton Grange, Suffolk, www.meltongrange.co.uk, for the first meeting. Is May Day weekend a possibility? If we had it on the Sunday, I could catch the Jazz before, perhaps ;)
Anyway, I think we need people to do these tasks pretty urgently: Make an information website Someone to tell the various places that our new LUG exists Someone to co-ordinate the first meeting Other stuff I haven't thought of
Martyn has suggested we get someone from a company using Linux to come and give a talk. I believe he's making enquiries. I suggest we get machines set up with the latest Gnome, KDE and WM there for people to have a look at, if people would volunteer, along with the obligatory install CDs...
As ever, it's over to you. I'll help when I can.
* From: "Martyn Drake" martyn@drake.org.uk
I'd be more than happy to register the domain, alug.org.uk, and host the domain. Every member that joins can have a forwarding address on the domain. I'd also be more than happy to edit and administer the web pages.
With regards to advertising, perhaps in addition to making a few annoucements on the relavent linux newsgroups, I'm wondering if it's worthwhile placing a few ads in some of the trade/local papers/magazines.
Just my thoughts for the moment.
M.
----- Original Message ----- From: alug@stu.uea.ac.uk To: alug@stu.uea.ac.uk Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 6:07 PM Subject: [ALUG] Mailing list created
* From: Mark J Ray h089@uea.ac.uk
Argh. Just found I did a typo in my message, so it bounced horribly because I'm not a list member...
Hi everyone,
Thanks for your interest in the Anglian Linux User Group. This email list has been set up for general discussion about ALUG. Please check that this is what appears in your from line, else you can't send to this list: laurie@brownowl.com daniel@capricorn1.demon.co.uk A.J.Savory@uea.ac.uk Paul.Russell@uea.ac.uk W.B.Hill@uea.ac.uk eric@sponsystems.freeserve.co.uk livia@neosaur.demon.co.uk h089@uea.ac.uk D.Casal@uea.ac.uk phil@marcmstr.demon.co.uk dermot.musgrove@virgin.net richard@mieussy.freeserve.co.uk jg@cyberstorm.demon.co.uk newspost@ttfn35.freeserve.co.uk raph@panache.demon.co.uk martyn@drake.org.uk
The welcome message for this list is: * A N G L I A N L I N U X U S E R G R O U P *
This is the general discussion list alug@stu.uea.ac.uk. We welcome all help in organising the ALUG. Hopefully, this will be the main place for that. While we are not against general Linux discussion, the newsgroup uk.comp.os.linux may be more helpful/appropriate.
If you wish to get announcements of events only, please leave this list by sending "unsubscribe" in the subject line to this list and send "subscribe" in the subject line to alug-announce@stu.uea.ac.uk, without the quotes, of course.
All messages sent to the announcements list are also sent to this list by default. ---END---
Hopefully, this list will do most of the event organising, as who has free time will doubtless vary from month to month. As some of you may know, Laurie has offered Melton Grange, Suffolk, www.meltongrange.co.uk, for the first meeting. Is May Day weekend a possibility? If we had it on the Sunday, I could catch the Jazz before, perhaps ;)
Anyway, I think we need people to do these tasks pretty urgently: Make an information website Someone to tell the various places that our new LUG exists Someone to co-ordinate the first meeting Other stuff I haven't thought of
Martyn has suggested we get someone from a company using Linux to come and give a talk. I believe he's making enquiries. I suggest we get machines set up with the latest Gnome, KDE and WM there for people to have a look at, if people would volunteer, along with the obligatory install CDs...
As ever, it's over to you. I'll help when I can.
-- Mark. Stats Postgrad mailto:M.J.Ray@UEA.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ "Windows is a binary timebomb" -- jclayton [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
[ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
* From: James Green jg@cyberstorm.demon.co.uk
In message 370BAABF.BeroList-2.5.9@stu.uea.ac.uk, alug@stu.uea.ac.uk writes
- From: "Martyn Drake" martyn@drake.org.uk
I'd be more than happy to register the domain, alug.org.uk, and host the domain. Every member that joins can have a forwarding address on the domain. I'd also be more than happy to edit and administer the web pages.
Good news that.
As a self-confessed newbie, I've been trying my best to work out (from my perspective at least) what problems can be encountered and common solutions. If such knowledge could be combined with others in a similar situation, together with expert help from the experienced, and put into document form, say, a FAQ, a website which walks the user through various aspects and any other forms anyone can think of, it could be useful.
I have been thinking quite a bit lately about creating a Linux user- based website/portal containing information such as that above. Someone contacted me a few days ago asking me to be co-webmaster of another new LUG, but I haven't heard from him since so I assume the idea to be dead in the water.
What does the group have in mind for the alug site?
* From: Mark J Ray h089@uea.ac.uk
On Wed, Apr 07, 1999 at 10:24:47PM +0100, alug@stu.uea.ac.uk wrote:
- From: James Green jg@cyberstorm.demon.co.uk
situation, together with expert help from the experienced, and put into document form, say, a FAQ, a website which walks the user through various aspects and any other forms anyone can think of, it could be useful.
James, good idea, as long as we link to the HOWTOs, etc, when appropriate, rather than attempting to recreate them.
Martyn, would you be happy to install an openFAQ on the site (www.boutell.com/openfaq/) for this purpose? Also, would you register the anglian.lug.org.uk domain?
Thanks,
* From: Laurie Brown laurie@brownowl.com
Firstly,
Well done Mark, on setting this up.
I can help with the web stuff, especially if people give me the text (hard or soft copy) so I can build the code around it.
I also already use Linux at the Hotel, on an old 486DX4-120 with 32meg on it. Principally I use it as a file server using samba (also running KDE, and SuSE 6.0), but I'm working on the proxy stuff now. I have some other kit at home I could bring up, so we could network a few PCs together and play with X-WIN-PRO, and so forth (quake2 tournament anyone ;^)). I also use Linux at home, so I can bring another old 486 up, and a couple of PII W95 boxes. Perhaps we could bring up some other old kit and install Linux whilst we're there.
I've had a great idea! Let's make a project of getting my ppp, diald, firewall, and proxy working! Well, it works for me... ;^)
I have the SuSE 6.0 CDs, and the freeby Red Hat from this month's PC Plus (yet to play with that). I suspect that, like me, most people are newbies, so it could be interesting.
May Day weekend would certainly be an option: we've got Lunchtime Jazz on the Sunday, and a Car Treasure Hunt on the Monday. The sun might even shine!
I agree that anglian.lug.org.uk is a better choice of domain name. In the short-term, I have several sites I can host any pages on as an interim, just let me know.
Cheers, Laurie.
PS. We should also try to recruit at least one new member to the LUG. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
* From: Mark J Ray h089@uea.ac.uk
- From: "Martyn Drake" martyn@drake.org.uk
I'd be more than happy to register the domain, alug.org.uk, and host the domain. Every member that joins can have a forwarding address on the domain. I'd also be more than happy to edit and administer the web pages.
Might we be better off getting anglian.lug.org.uk which would be free? I'd like to take up your hosting offer as you have a permanent box in the co.uk domain... ;)
Oh, and would people trim the message they're replying to, please?
* From: "Martyn Drake" martyn@drake.org.uk
Sorry 'bout the message quoting - need to familiarise myself with Outlook Express 5, and what a load of pooh it is, but that's what customers use so I have no choice for the moment - the life of an ISP tech person :)
I'm applying for the subdomain and will hopefully get permission from my boss to host the site here at Net Communications, and will offer anyone a forwarding address of xxxx@anglian.lug.org.uk who requests it as soon as it's ready. I'll check out Mark's pages a little later in the day.
Anyway, off to work..
M.
----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 11:31 PM Subject: Re: [ALUG] Mailing list created
* From: Mark J Ray h089@uea.ac.uk
- From: "Martyn Drake" martyn@drake.org.uk
I'd be more than happy to register the domain, alug.org.uk, and host the domain. Every member that joins can have a forwarding address on the domain. I'd also be more than happy to edit and administer the web pages.
Might we be better off getting anglian.lug.org.uk which would be free? I'd like to take up your hosting offer as you have a permanent box in the co.uk domain... ;)
Oh, and would people trim the message they're replying to, please?
[ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
* From: Raphael Mankin raph@panache.demon.co.uk
On 08-Apr-99 alug@stu.uea.ac.uk wrote:
- From: "Martyn Drake" martyn@drake.org.uk
Sorry 'bout the message quoting - need to familiarise myself with Outlook Express 5, and what a load of pooh it is, but that's what customers use so I have no choice for the moment - the life of an ISP tech person :)
I'm applying for the subdomain and will hopefully get permission from my boss to host the site here at Net Communications, and will offer anyone a forwarding address of xxxx@anglian.lug.org.uk who requests it as soon as it's ready. I'll check out Mark's pages a little later in the day.
If you ahve problems with yoru boss, drop me a line. I am the system administrator and technical director of my own company, so I don';t have to ask anyone's permission. ---------------------------------- 2 + 2 = 5 (for large values of 2) Raphael Mankin E-Mail: raph@panache.demon.co.uk ---------------------------------- [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
* From: Dermot Musgrove dermot.musgrove@virgin.net
alug@stu.uea.ac.uk wrote:
- From: Mark J Ray h089@uea.ac.uk
Hi, well done for getting this set up.
Anyway, I think we need people to do these tasks pretty urgently: Make an information website Someone to tell the various places that our new LUG exists Someone to co-ordinate the first meeting Other stuff I haven't thought of
I haven't any experience of other LUGs so I doubt that I can help much here but I'm sure that we can all contribute to a website.
Perhaps some useful pages (as well as home/info page) would be 1) A moderated bookmarks page (with links to other LUGs, HOWTOs etc) 2) The ALUG announcements. 3) Reports of meetings and projects. 4) Members' software and works in progress. 6) Suggestions box 7) Hardware skip (or exchange) 8) Community based projects - help local groups benefit from Linux.
Martyn has suggested we get someone from a company using Linux to come and give a talk. I believe he's making enquiries. I suggest we get machines set up with the latest Gnome, KDE and WM there for people to have a look at, if people would volunteer, along with the obligatory install CDs...
Perhaps one machine could be devoted to window managers of all sorts, just to show people what is possible outside M$-land.
I still prefer the smaller and less flashy wms, perhaps there could also be some old hardware (fvwm on 486 or 386 serving http) to prove how cheap a useful Linux setup can be.
I wish that I had known some people in meat-space when I was first setting Linux up, and I still need all the help that I can get, so I hope that ALUG succeeds.
Just my .02 euro,
Dermot
[ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
* From: Raphael Mankin raph@panache.demon.co.uk
On 07-Apr-99 alug@stu.uea.ac.uk wrote:
I still prefer the smaller and less flashy wms, perhaps there could also be some old hardware (fvwm on 486 or 386 serving http) to prove how cheap a useful Linux setup can be.
But I only use a 486, anyway. My son uses a batch of 386s running Linux as network routers. Just a little RAM and a 40M disk, and away you go. ---------------------------------- 2 + 2 = 5 (for large values of 2) Raphael Mankin E-Mail: raph@panache.demon.co.uk ---------------------------------- [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce@stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]
* From: Daniel Smith daniel@capricorn1.demon.co.uk
In message 370B913E.BeroList-2.5.9@stu.uea.ac.uk, alug@stu.uea.ac.uk writes
- From: Mark J Ray h089@uea.ac.uk
Argh. Just found I did a typo in my message, so it bounced horribly because I'm not a list member...
Hi everyone,
Thanks for your interest in the Anglian Linux User Group. This email list has been set up for general discussion about ALUG. Please check that this is what appears in your from line, else you can't send to this list:
Excellent, it works! Is there any chance you can amend my e-mail address to linux@capricorn1.demon.co.uk rather that daniel@capetc.etc.? This will help me to filter my mail accordingly.
Being a fully fledged 'Newbie' (I only just installed Red-Hat on Saturday thanks to those nice chaps at PC plus!) I don't think I will be much help yet as I'm still relying on Bill Gates at the moment. However I am willing do whatever is requested of me (perhaps help with the web- design? HTML coding) and I think the meetings will be a great way to pass on tips and generally discuss the system.
Down with Micro$haft!
* From: Mark J Ray h089@uea.ac.uk
- From: Daniel Smith daniel@capricorn1.demon.co.uk
Please check that this is what appears in your from line, else
[...]
Excellent, it works! Is there any chance you can amend my e-mail address to linux@capricorn1.demon.co.uk rather that daniel@capetc.etc.? This will help me to filter my mail accordingly.
I've been asked this before, so I'll email it to the list. Please can you filter on either the [ALUG] at the start of the subject line or the from address of alug@stu.uea.ac.uk (which will move when we get the domain, I guess), as I need to use the proper from lines to prevent us from being spammed.
Thanks,
* From: Daniel Smith daniel@capricorn1.demon.co.uk
In message 370BEE1E.BeroList-2.5.9@stu.uea.ac.uk, alug@stu.uea.ac.uk
I've been asked this before, so I'll email it to the list. Please can you filter on either the [ALUG] at the start of the subject line or the from address of alug@stu.uea.ac.uk (which will move when we get the domain, I guess), as I need to use the proper from lines to prevent us from being spammed.
OK then, no problem!