I'm looking for some sort of GPS/PDA set up for logging walking/cycling and to provide directions for when I'm riding my motorbike.
One suggestion is the Nokia 810 which is Linux based so that's an extra plus.
Does anyone here have any experience of this device? For a start how big is it, I can't see this information in any of the adverts.
On Wednesday 27 August 2008 10:40:56 Chris G wrote:
I'm looking for some sort of GPS/PDA set up for logging walking/cycling and to provide directions for when I'm riding my motorbike.
One suggestion is the Nokia 810 which is Linux based so that's an extra plus.
I don't know how they would compare, but the GPS on my E90 is a bit disappointing. It often takes several minutes for it to connect to sufficient satellites. It eats up battery. And I think its deliberately conservative with its satellite connections in order to attempt to save power. Consequently it's not the most accurate GPS device, generally around 30-40m in my experience. AIUI, better commercially available devices should be around 5-10m.
Does anyone here have any experience of this device?
I should say, I don't.
For a start how big is it, I can't see this information in any of the adverts.
I can tell its dimensions and mass:
Mass: 226 g Length: 72 mm Width: 128 mm Thickness: 14 mm
What that translates to ergonomically, I can't tell you.
I found that on Nokia's website: http://www.nokia.co.uk/A4630129
Richard
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:40:56AM +0100, Chris G wrote:
I'm looking for some sort of GPS/PDA set up for logging walking/cycling and to provide directions for when I'm riding my motorbike.
If you have a suitable mobile phone then that's an option? I have a bluetooth GPS that ties in with my phone to let me do track logging. I haven't got navigation software for it mainly because I have a TomTom that handles that just fine.
One suggestion is the Nokia 810 which is Linux based so that's an extra plus.
Does anyone here have any experience of this device? For a start how big is it, I can't see this information in any of the adverts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N810
J.
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 11:08:49AM +0100, Jonathan McDowell wrote:
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:40:56AM +0100, Chris G wrote:
I'm looking for some sort of GPS/PDA set up for logging walking/cycling and to provide directions for when I'm riding my motorbike.
If you have a suitable mobile phone then that's an option? I have a bluetooth GPS that ties in with my phone to let me do track logging. I haven't got navigation software for it mainly because I have a TomTom that handles that just fine.
Yes, it's an interesting question how one splits up the GPS, PDA and phone isn't it. I *very* rarely use a mobile phone so I have an ancient minimalist Sendo at the moment. However I could be persuaded that a new mobile phone plus a logging bluetooth GPS would be the way to provide my GPS logging. ... and then a separate road navigation system for the 'bike.
One suggestion is the Nokia 810 which is Linux based so that's an extra plus.
Does anyone here have any experience of this device? For a start how big is it, I can't see this information in any of the adverts.
Thanks, that has told me just about everything I wanted to know about it - and more!
The problem I see with it is that you still need a mobile phone as well as the Nokia 810 if you're going to be able to use the N810 from anywhere except where there is wireless internet available.
On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 10:40 +0100, Chris G wrote:
I'm looking for some sort of GPS/PDA set up for logging walking/cycling and to provide directions for when I'm riding my motorbike.
One suggestion is the Nokia 810 which is Linux based so that's an extra plus.
One thing to be aware of from googling, out of the box the mapping capability of the N810 seems limited unless you pony up some more money to enable the full feature-set of the built in software.
As standard I think it is unable to do directions/navigation. Also I think it requires an Internet connection to do this bit anyway so you are either going to chew through your mobile data plan or know exactly where you are going before you leave home/go out of range of wifi
It's a shame the otherwise excellent Google Maps for Mobile isn't supported, but that again would need a continuous Internet connection, I had it on a demo E90 for a bit and it did chew the bandwidth (even more so on sat view)
Aside from that I am not aware of any good mapping/navigation software that works on the N810 when it is offline, so while it could cope pretty well with the position logging I think it will be pretty limited in terms of a navigation device...also the battery life might be a problem because I presume it would have to remain fully powered for the GPS to work.
I think this might be one of those cases where a dedicated device is a better option, there is third party software for the more recent tomtom's that allows a position log to be created such as NEMALogger
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 11:59:25AM +0100, Wayne Stallwood wrote:
On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 10:40 +0100, Chris G wrote:
I'm looking for some sort of GPS/PDA set up for logging walking/cycling and to provide directions for when I'm riding my motorbike.
One suggestion is the Nokia 810 which is Linux based so that's an extra plus.
One thing to be aware of from googling, out of the box the mapping capability of the N810 seems limited unless you pony up some more money to enable the full feature-set of the built in software.
There is actually some free mapping software available for it. The paid for mapping software is called Wayfaring, I can't remember the name of the free one.
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I think this might be one of those cases where a dedicated device is a better option, there is third party software for the more recent tomtom's that allows a position log to be created such as NEMALogger
Yes, I'm beginning to think you may be right.
What I'd *really* like is a mobile phone which provides a couple of extras:-
A way to use ssh via its data connection, requires a usable keyboard though.
Possibly a way to connect a GPS logger (Bluetooth) so it can send GPS logging information.
I would then have a pretty compact set up for bicycle/walking. A cheap GPS for car/motorbike can be totally separate.
Chris G wrote:
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 11:59:25AM +0100, Wayne Stallwood wrote:
On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 10:40 +0100, Chris G wrote:
I'm looking for some sort of GPS/PDA set up for logging walking/cycling and to provide directions for when I'm riding my motorbike.
One suggestion is the Nokia 810 which is Linux based so that's an extra plus.
One thing to be aware of from googling, out of the box the mapping capability of the N810 seems limited unless you pony up some more money to enable the full feature-set of the built in software.
There is actually some free mapping software available for it. The paid for mapping software is called Wayfaring, I can't remember the name of the free one.
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I think this might be one of those cases where a dedicated device is a better option, there is third party software for the more recent tomtom's that allows a position log to be created such as NEMALogger
Yes, I'm beginning to think you may be right.
What I'd *really* like is a mobile phone which provides a couple of extras:-
A way to use ssh via its data connection, requires a usable keyboard though. Possibly a way to connect a GPS logger (Bluetooth) so it can send GPS logging information.I would then have a pretty compact set up for bicycle/walking. A cheap GPS for car/motorbike can be totally separate.
If you are prepared to forego Linux, Nokia have just released some free software for cyclists for use on their latest N-series phones but also including E90s.
http://blogs.notw.co.uk/showbiz/2008/06/win-a-nokia-n82.html
http://sportstracker.nokia.com/nts/main/index.do
Hope this helps.
CDW (Linux) wrote:
If you are prepared to forego Linux, Nokia have just released some free software for cyclists for use on their latest N-series phones but also including E90s.
http://blogs.notw.co.uk/showbiz/2008/06/win-a-nokia-n82.html
http://sportstracker.nokia.com/nts/main/index.do
Hope this helps.
Wow that looks great.
ChrisG, the N95 (8gb or otherwise) is definitely the way to go. Built-in GPS and this sports tracker thing.. Looks great, I'm gonna try it out tomorrow.
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:45:16PM +0100, Simon Elliott wrote:
CDW (Linux) wrote:
If you are prepared to forego Linux, Nokia have just released some free software for cyclists for use on their latest N-series phones but also including E90s.
http://blogs.notw.co.uk/showbiz/2008/06/win-a-nokia-n82.html
http://sportstracker.nokia.com/nts/main/index.do
Hope this helps.
Wow that looks great.
ChrisG, the N95 (8gb or otherwise) is definitely the way to go. Built-in GPS and this sports tracker thing.. Looks great, I'm gonna try it out tomorrow.
I'm certainly looking at the Nokias. There's even the E71 with full QWERTY keyboard and GPS built in - and the price is not *too* silly.
The question is whether it's best to go for the all-in-one solution or a cheaper phone with external keyboard and external GPS.
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:00:09PM +0100, Chris G wrote:
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:45:16PM +0100, Simon Elliott wrote:
CDW (Linux) wrote:
If you are prepared to forego Linux, Nokia have just released some free software for cyclists for use on their latest N-series phones but also including E90s.
http://blogs.notw.co.uk/showbiz/2008/06/win-a-nokia-n82.html
http://sportstracker.nokia.com/nts/main/index.do
Hope this helps.
Wow that looks great.
ChrisG, the N95 (8gb or otherwise) is definitely the way to go. Built-in GPS and this sports tracker thing.. Looks great, I'm gonna try it out tomorrow.
I'm certainly looking at the Nokias. There's even the E71 with full QWERTY keyboard and GPS built in - and the price is not *too* silly.
The question is whether it's best to go for the all-in-one solution or a cheaper phone with external keyboard and external GPS.
When you say you're going to "try it out tomorrow" - is it possible to try mobile phones for a day (or even a week) before buying?
On 28 Aug 2008, at 17:55, Chris G wrote:
When you say you're going to "try it out tomorrow" - is it possible to try mobile phones for a day (or even a week) before buyin
I think he meant the software rather than the phone. (As an aside, it might be useful to quote just the bit you're referring to in your reply, as to begin with, I didn't know which bit you were replying to).
Thanks,
David
Chris G wrote:
When you say you're going to "try it out tomorrow" - is it possible to try mobile phones for a day (or even a week) before buying?
Indeed, I was referring to the software.. I have an N95 8gb already, it's got GPS integrated etc.. I installed the sports tracker software the other day and will go for a run and record it some time this week ;) I think vodafone offered me a 14 day period where after I'd got the phone, if I wasn't happy I could take it back..
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