There should be several of us at the City Gate on Thursday next week, details here http://www.alug.org.uk/venues/norwich.html Also next Friday is the Alug xmas dinner, this will be at the Buckinghamshire Arms which is in Blickling near Aylsham North Norfolk. http://www.buckinghamshirearms-norfolk.co.uk/ so far 10 people have confirmed, if you would also like to come to this dinner let me know via email as they would like to know the numbers in advance. The Bucks is a nice pub, sitting just outside Blickling Hall, they always have a few good Norfolk cask ales on, and every time I have eaten there the food has been fantastic. They also don't have things like fruit machines and jukeboxes (which imho is an advantage) to make noise at you and get in the way of conversation. Adam -- jabberid = quinophex@jabber.earth.li AFFS || http://www.affs.org.uk/ || Not a filesystem