The majority of us fenny amphibians don't normally have to worry about such things, but people who venture out on the Cambridgeshire Alps do have to worry. These are a chain of mountains running North from Huntingdon/St Ives out to Warboys and thereabouts.
The Pidley Mountain Rescue Team seems to have changed its website:
http://www.pidleymountainrescue.org.uk/
I can no longer view what they've been up to, since I'm now told that "additionaql plugins are required to display all the media on this page". When I click to install the missing plugins, it announces "Java Runtime Environment", but when I try to comtinue it says "No plugins were installed. Java Runtime Environment Not Available."
Then taking the option for "Manual Install" I get shown a choice of RPM (jre-6u13-linux-i586-rpm.bin) or self-extracting binary file (jre-6u13-linux-i586.bin).
I'm running Debian Etch with Iceweasel browswer. I've looked into what synaptic comes up with when I search on "java" or "runtime" or "java runtime". Up comes a lot of stuff, of which one is Java runtime environment using GIJ java-gcj-compat is a collection of wrapper scripts, symlinks and jar files. It is meant to provide a Java-RTE-like interface to the GIJ/GCJ tool set. (and it says version 1.0.65-10, whereas the java runtime offered by the "Manual install" is "version 6, update 13").
I'm hesitating, because I don't want to do the wrong thing here, nor mess things up by installing incomplete or incompatible things.
I'd be grateful for advice about installing java runtime in a proper way in my setup.
Maybe I'm suffering the effects of altitude sickness, after the trek over the passes between here & Syleham yesterday! Ted.
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At Mon, 04 May 2009 13:28:54 +0100 (BST), (Ted Harding) wrote:
The Pidley Mountain Rescue Team seems to have changed its website:
http://www.pidleymountainrescue.org.uk/
I can no longer view what they've been up to, since I'm now told that "additionaql plugins are required to display all the media on this page". When I click to install the missing plugins, it announces "Java Runtime Environment", but when I try to comtinue it says "No plugins were installed. Java Runtime Environment Not Available."
Then taking the option for "Manual Install" I get shown a choice of RPM (jre-6u13-linux-i586-rpm.bin) or self-extracting binary file (jre-6u13-linux-i586.bin).
I'm running Debian Etch with Iceweasel browswer. I've looked into what synaptic comes up with when I search on "java" or "runtime" or "java runtime". Up comes a lot of stuff, of which one is Java runtime environment using GIJ java-gcj-compat is a collection of wrapper scripts, symlinks and jar files. It is meant to provide a Java-RTE-like interface to the GIJ/GCJ tool set. (and it says version 1.0.65-10, whereas the java runtime offered by the "Manual install" is "version 6, update 13").
I'm hesitating, because I don't want to do the wrong thing here, nor mess things up by installing incomplete or incompatible things.
I'd be grateful for advice about installing java runtime in a proper way in my setup.
If you add non-free to your APT repositories you should be able to install the package sun-java6-plugin. However, for etch it's only available as a backport. It's in Debian non-free from lenny onwards. It provides the official Sun version which is pretty likely to work as the site designer intended.
Also, who uses Java applets anymore?
Best, Richard
Thanks to Richard Lewis & Ben Whyte for the advice. Ben: "I use the sun-java runtime from the debian repositories so apt-get sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin "
I think that should be "apt-get install ..." Even so, it draws a blank:
# apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Package sun-java6-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package sun-java6-jre has no installation candidate
Richard: "If you add non-free to your APT repositories you should be able to install the package sun-java6-plugin. However, for etch it's only available as a backport."
Here is my /etc/apt/sources.list (broken lines indicated with "")
deb-src cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r0 _Etch_ - Official \ Multi-architecture i386 \ /amd64/powerpc/source DVD #1 20070407-12:57]/ etch contrib main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r0 _Etch_ - Official \ Multi-architecture i386/amd64/powerpc/source DVD #1 \ 20070407-12:57]/ etch contrib main
deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main
deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ etch-cran/
deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ sarge main contrib non-free deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main
So it looks as though both etch-backports and non-free are there.
However, I've long suspected that there's something not quite right about my sources.list (and I'm not clued up on how to edit it nor what really ought to be in it).
So back to my SOS call for Mountain Rescue in Java! Ted.
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At Mon, 04 May 2009 15:47:54 +0100 (BST), (Ted Harding) wrote:
Richard: "If you add non-free to your APT repositories you should be able to install the package sun-java6-plugin. However, for etch it's only available as a backport."
Here is my /etc/apt/sources.list (broken lines indicated with "")
deb-src cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r0 _Etch_ - Official \ Multi-architecture i386 \ /amd64/powerpc/source DVD #1 20070407-12:57]/ etch contrib main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r0 _Etch_ - Official \ Multi-architecture i386/amd64/powerpc/source DVD #1 \ 20070407-12:57]/ etch contrib main
Are you using the CDs at all? If not, then I'd suggest you consider commenting these lines out.
deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main
deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ etch-cran/
deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ sarge main contrib non-free
This doesn't look quite right. I would guess that this mention of 'sarge' should read 'etch'.
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main
So it looks as though both etch-backports and non-free are there.
However, I've long suspected that there's something not quite right about my sources.list (and I'm not clued up on how to edit it nor what really ought to be in it).
You may also want to consider changing all your sources from 'etch' to 'lenny' which is the latest stable release and choosing a nearer by mirror such as http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/
In any case, do:
$ sudo aptitude update
to make it download the latest package information from your chosen mirror.
Then you should be able to install sun-java6-plugin.
If you choose to upgrade to lenny, then you should do something like:
$ sudo aptitude install apt dpkg aptitude $ sudo aptitude full-upgrade
and sacrifice a goat ;-)
Best, Richard
On 04-May-09 16:53:35, Richard Lewis wrote:
At Mon, 04 May 2009 15:47:54 +0100 (BST), (Ted Harding) wrote:
Richard: "If you add non-free to your APT repositories you should be able to install the package sun-java6-plugin. However, for etch it's only available as a backport."
Here is my /etc/apt/sources.list (broken lines indicated with "")
deb-src cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r0 _Etch_ - Official \ Multi-architecture i386 \ /amd64/powerpc/source DVD #1 20070407-12:57]/ etch contrib main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r0 _Etch_ - Official \ Multi-architecture i386/amd64/powerpc/source DVD #1 \ 20070407-12:57]/ etch contrib main
Are you using the CDs at all? If not, then I'd suggest you consider commenting these lines out.
I do from time to time. I originallt installed Etch off a Linux Format CD, and sometimes when I want to install something it asks me to insert the CD, and then installs from that.
deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main
deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ etch-cran/
deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ sarge main contrib non-free
This doesn't look quite right. I would guess that this mention of 'sarge' should read 'etch'.
I'll try changing that and see what happens.
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main
So it looks as though both etch-backports and non-free are there.
However, I've long suspected that there's something not quite right about my sources.list (and I'm not clued up on how to edit it nor what really ought to be in it).
You may also want to consider changing all your sources from 'etch' to 'lenny' which is the latest stable release and choosing a nearer by mirror such as http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/
As it happens, I also have a "provisional" Lenny install on another machine (again, from a recent Linux Format CD). I just started that up, initiated synaptic, and searched for "sun-java". I selected jre and the plugin to be installed, which it duly did (off the CD ... ).
Then I started up Iceweasel, and went to the Pidley Mountain Rescue Team website. This time it worked beautifully!
So Steve's experience that it didn't work despite having up-to-date Java on Debian *and* on Windows/Firefox is indeed puzzling. Unless there was a problem at the time with the web-site which has now been resolved.
In any case, do:
$ sudo aptitude update
to make it download the latest package information from your chosen mirror.
Then you should be able to install sun-java6-plugin.
If you choose to upgrade to lenny, then you should do something like:
$ sudo aptitude install apt dpkg aptitude $ sudo aptitude full-upgrade
and sacrifice a goat ;-)
My goat has just done a runner ...
Again, thanks to all for the adivice and further contributions. Ted.
Best, Richard --
-------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Ted.Harding@manchester.ac.uk Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 04-May-09 Time: 18:36:05 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------
(Ted Harding) wrote:
The majority of us fenny amphibians don't normally have to worry about such things, but people who venture out on the Cambridgeshire Alps do have to worry. These are a chain of mountains running North from Huntingdon/St Ives out to Warboys and thereabouts.
The Pidley Mountain Rescue Team seems to have changed its website:
http://www.pidleymountainrescue.org.uk/
I can no longer view what they've been up to, since I'm now told that "additionaql plugins are required to display all the media on this page". When I click to install the missing plugins, it announces "Java Runtime Environment", but when I try to comtinue it says "No plugins were installed. Java Runtime Environment Not Available."
Then taking the option for "Manual Install" I get shown a choice of RPM (jre-6u13-linux-i586-rpm.bin) or self-extracting binary file (jre-6u13-linux-i586.bin).
I'm running Debian Etch with Iceweasel browswer. I've looked into what synaptic comes up with when I search on "java" or "runtime" or "java runtime". Up comes a lot of stuff, of which one is Java runtime environment using GIJ java-gcj-compat is a collection of wrapper scripts, symlinks and jar files. It is meant to provide a Java-RTE-like interface to the GIJ/GCJ tool set. (and it says version 1.0.65-10, whereas the java runtime offered by the "Manual install" is "version 6, update 13").
I'm hesitating, because I don't want to do the wrong thing here, nor mess things up by installing incomplete or incompatible things.
I'd be grateful for advice about installing java runtime in a proper way in my setup.
Maybe I'm suffering the effects of altitude sickness, after the trek over the passes between here & Syleham yesterday! Ted.
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The strange thing here is upon visiting the site I get the same issues under Debian based distros, but also a Windows box using Firefox, with uptodate Java.
Puzzling.
Steve
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