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Re: [Alug] Distributions
by MJ Ray 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

David: > >Speaking of .... anyone want Debian 2.2r4 CDs? > I stupidly lost the one MJ gave me (thankfully post-install at home), so I'd > love one... I've not had any 2.2r4 ones, as they're not that old. I'd quite welcome one too, just as there's always someone to give them to. ;-) -- MJR

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Debian CDs
by MJ Ray 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

I hope to have real silver copies of some official Debian CDs at Sunday's meeting, if they get here in time. They'll be 2.2r3, but there isn't *too* much difference from r4, so it should be a relative quick update (definitely less than an hour at modem speed). Suggested donation amount and numbers are as yet unconfirmed, but it would be a great way to support the Debian project with some much-needed funds. http://www.uk.debian.org/ -- MJR

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PPPD Problems
by Earl Brannigan 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

Hi all, I'm running Debian Potato with an Intel Ham Modem. Using either pon/poff or wvdial I seem to get the same problem after dialling. The modem connects and makes plenty of noise. with wvdial : After connection I get : 'Looks like a login prompt sending <username>' then : 'Looks like a password prompt sending <password>' then after a second or 2 'Don't know what to do, starting pppd and hoping for the best' pppd starts but after a few seconds it 'gives up' and terminates. Looking in the log I can see the call to pppd<-->/dev/ham then (I have debugging turned on) after a few lines pppd 'detects loopback' and terminates. It appears that when pppd attaches to the modem it thinks that 'the serial device is looped back'. (if I send 'ATZ'>/dev/ham the modem clicks satisfyingly...) and it is properly set up because sometimes it works!!!! - this is the annoying thing, last night it connected first time and I surfed for half hour, then when I tried a little later (even after reboots) it went back to the previous state. lsmod shows all of the relevant modules loaded, /etc/ppp/<files> all appear to be in order ... stuck! The best thing is that wvdial and pppd must die in a nasty way. ps shows them, killall -TERM doesn't kill them which leaves a kill -9 as the only way to get rid of them. if I rmmod all of the relevant modules then restart the whole process all of the modules are reloaded etc... as should be pon gives the same log output but there is no detail on the screen. poff afterwards gives an error that pppd is not running. Really starting to do my head in - as well as probably costing me a small packet in 5p a shot aborted phone-calls. I Have 2 ISP Accounts - freeserve and uklinux (with a few optional numbers), both of which experience the same problem. Has anyone had anything similar or can you suggest a possible cause .. Cheers Earl [earl.brannigan(a)lindenhouse.co.uk] www.lindenhouse.co.uk Intellectual : Someone who can spend a whole day locked in a room with a tea cosy without once thinking of trying it on. Highbrow : Someone who can listen to the entire William Tell Overture without once thinking of the Lone Ranger.

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Re: [Alug] Mozilla plug-ins
by MJ Ray 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

Mark Elliss: > I found that just dropping the plugin into Mozilla's plugin directory > simply did not work. Using the link it works a treat. ...and I found it did, but I'm not using a standalone JRE. I don't know if that's the difference. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Mozilla plug-ins
by Ricardo Campos 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

> Do not copy libjavaplugin_oji.so directly to >mozilla's plugin directory. Strangely enough, there isn't one! I don't have netscrape 6, so I'll have to grep libjavaplugin_oji.so, should be OK. Are there any weird permissions for the ~/.mozilla/plugin/ directory? (or is it ~/.mozilla/plug-in/ , etc.) Hopefully I'll be able to mkdir the directory and chmod 755 it? Or is there another way I need to do this? (Unfortunately I do not have access to my linux box right now) Thanks for the help! Ricardo "There are several codes, and I know several of them." -Mr. Precise. http://www.rscampos.net -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Distributions
by Andrew Savory 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

Hi all, There's been some coverage recently [1] about the relative popularity of different distributions and hardware platforms. I just thought it would be kinda interesting before the next meeting (which I should be at) to see who uses what? I'll start the ball rolling: 6 Debian Intel (all manner of junk from 486 to P3) and 1 Debian Alpha. Andrew. [1] http://lwn.net//2001/1115/#dist

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Re: [Alug] Big disks and BIOS
by MJ Ray 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

> Depends if you want to boot off the disk or not. I found I was unable to > boot from my 34gb disk, but that I could mount it and use it just fine in > Linux after booting from another disk. It *should* be possible to boot from it, as long as the boot partition is near the start of the disk (for some value of "near"). -- MJR

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Re: Python + Perl = Parrot
by Lucy McWilliam 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

Owen Synge wrote: > I have been looking up a bit of python, (trying to find idle) and stumbled > across an april's fools joke that got me this year. > http://www.oreilly.com/news/parrotstory_0401.html http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2001/04/01/parrot.htm - the original joke http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2001/09/18/parrot.html - the bytecode intepreter http://www.parrotcode.org I have to admit it got me too. Parrot is now the virtual machine for Perl 6. L. "Everybody knows badger likes mashed potato."

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Big disks and BIOS
by Edenyard 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

Can anyone set me straight on the situation regarding large HDs and (early) BIOS limitations? I seem to remember a limit of 8.4Gb for 486 and early 586 BIOSes, but does that mean that HDs > 8.4Gb won't work at all on these motherboards, or will the space above 8.4Gb just be unreachable? I know that one can get special drivers to overcome the limit, but this is going to be for Linux mainly, so the possibility of using a DOS driver doesn't exist. The problem is that I need a new HD and all I see for sale these days seem to start at around 20Gb. I don't mind buying 20Gb so long as I know that I can use 8.4Gb of it! Any clues or enlightenment, as always, very welcome - thanks! Gerald.

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Re: [Alug] Mozilla plug-ins
by MJ Ray 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

> I've been able to activate my Java VM plug-in in > Netscape, but can't seem to do this in Mozilla. [...] The simplest way is to go and download the Java VM plug-in for Netscape 6 with Mozilla. It's a large download, though, so if you're talking about Netscape 6, you could try copying the java2 and libjavaplugin_oji.so to Mozilla's plugins dir, but that might not work. HTH -- MJR

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