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Weekly IRC meeting reminder
by Adam Bower 16 Apr '01

16 Apr '01

This is the automated ALUG irc meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an irc meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.openprojects.net in the #alug channel, you can take a look at www.openprojects.net to get more info on the openprojects network. Popular irc clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and ircII on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.bitchx.com http://www.xchat.org http://freshmeat.net Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Re: [Alug] Unix File sharing
by MJ Ray 14 Apr '01

14 Apr '01

Adam Bower <abower(a)zeus.com> writes: > Aah, you have mentioned the unmentionable, I wouldn't use linux as a NFS > server ever! I would recommend that you use Solaris for NFS as Sun > invented NFS (at work we say definitivly broken) it is the reference > platform for other *nix. Linux is a great NFS client though... Oddly enough, the kernel nfs in Linux 2.2 has been better for me than the Solaris implementation in 2.5.1 and 2.6. Solaris 7 and 8 are better than 2.2, so I'm hoping that the 2.4 kernels will level things up again. The non-kernel nfs server isn't worth using, though, and in most cases you should use rsize=8192,wsize=8192. Now I've rebuilt this machine, I'm off to play with ext3 (mangled /home, here we come!). Any last words of advice? -- MJR

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[Various] Digested Articles
by MJ Ray 14 Apr '01

14 Apr '01

spam4u Topics: [lugmaster] jolt cola [uklugs] Linux training Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:49:12 +0100 (BST) From: Mark Lewis <mark(a)tuxbox.net> Subject: [lugmaster] jolt cola fyi i have now got jolt cola in the linux shop at www.linuxshop.co.uk/jolt.php Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:57:15 +0100 From: Clive Gould <Clive(a)bromley.ac.uk> Subject: [uklugs] Linux training We are offering evening training in the Fundamentals of System Administration (following the syllabus for LPI exam 101) starting on April 23rd at Bromley College. The url for details is http://www.bromley.ac.uk/linux/fundamentals.htm Please could you let anybody who might be interested know? Thanks very much Clive Gould

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Re: [Alug] RE: alug digest, Vol 1 #194 - 16 msgs
by MJ Ray 13 Apr '01

13 Apr '01

David Freeman <david_freeman(a)rocketmail.com> writes: > [...] What did people think of the Poster Jenny Did? I think Its > quite good. Can anyone print off some copies? I'm not sure I've seen that poster. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] networking probs
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 13 Apr '01

13 Apr '01

Fantastic! Ifconfig now shows eth0 rather than dummy0: - io address was 0x2a0. Thanks, I would never had known to change that. tcpdump now showing host jenny/TCL unreachable, no other traffic showing. netstat -rn shows 192.168.11.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U eth0 tcpdump does show at the end "eth0 > arp who-has jenny/TCL tell TRX850/TCL (0:80:c8:78:42:bf)" after using lo to ping its own IP address. Thanks all. My problem has moved on and up. Jenny.

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Re: [Alug] RE: alug digest, Vol 1 #194 - 16 msgs
by MJ Ray 12 Apr '01

12 Apr '01

Toby Jaffey <toby(a)earth.li> writes: > In my experience "the masses" want things that work and are willing to > pay for them and are more than willing to give up freedoms to get them. Paying for software and giving up freedoms are not mutually exclusive, IMO. Sadly, many people don't even realise that they have the freedoms which they are invited to surrender for no cost benefit. Education is the only way forwards. Anyone to write a "Why Free?" poster text for LinuxDay? -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Unix File sharing
by MJ Ray 12 Apr '01

12 Apr '01

David Freeman <david_freeman(a)rocketmail.com> writes: > a wet paper bag? Is it really better than NFS? if it is I will remove > the NFS from the plan as samba may be used for the nt support. If samba is going to be used anyway and you want per-user sharing, might as well use it, I guess. No sense running more services than needed. I don't know how the performance compares. -- MJR

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RE: alug digest, Vol 1 #194 - 16 msgs
by Earl Brannigan 12 Apr '01

12 Apr '01

Hi All, Sorry to all and sundry if this has nothing at all to do with the remit of ALUG. Please however spare me the flames. This is the sort of thing that really pisses me off. The reason I switched to Linux in the first place was one thing ... freedom. I'm sick of being held to ransom by the big corporates. But its no suprise. Democracy is a misnomer. Little people don't get heard while the big corporates have more lobbyists than there are MPs MEPs etc to lobby. Since when did a company vote? When did a company campaign for human rights? When did a company die on a battlefield protecting those rights? David you ask what we can do. The only thing one can do is to stick to open, non-copyrighted stuff as far as practical. Boycott those which seek to restrict your choices as both a citizen and a consumer. These things are snuck in very quietly, with cleverly orchestrated lead ups to convince people that these are good things. Thereby "protecting people's intellectual property" (a noble good thing to do) becomes necessary due to the 'high speed, rapidly changing knowledge economy" (something we all are a part of like it or not) but results in restrictions on choice and liberty being introduced by stealth - and nobody notices. For me, I will continue to exercise what I consider to be essential human freedoms - if that puts me in a position 'outside of the law' then so be it. Everyone must be their own master in this. I will support organisations such as Free Software Foundation which is involved in trying to prevent Software and Business Process patents from being enacted creating a complete minefield for anyone considering a software solution. Mostly however I will attempt to stay within the land of the 'free', a growing world. So when someone comes along with a proprietary restricive DVD software for Linux I'll say "No Thanks". If enough people say no thanks then the market (the only thing the Coporates Understand) will become the advocate of the free, supplying a voice to the dissenters. This is why things like National Linux Day are good. Getting people to begin thinking in 'free, open' terms can be like rescuing them from a cult. For me the past few years with GNU/Linux has opened up a whole world that I never realised existed. A rich environment that reciprocates in an almost altruistic manner. For me this is priceless, and the more people that realise this, get involved and make it work the better. When people aren't buying and aren't caring you can bet that the big guys will take note. Eg. Napster.....Sod off Bertelsmann or whatever your name is, You can spend as many millions as you like trying to shut them down, but its already too late... enough have tasted that even if Napster disappears, thousands more are waiting in the wings to step in to the breach. The Snowball to Snowman analogy is true. It takes loads of effort to make a snowman, but you expend 80% in the first few rolls trying to get the snow to gather, but once the ball has enough weight you just have to keep it moving forward, growth will take care of itself. So that's all we need to do, keep this thing moving, keep the debates open, keep raising the issues, keep convincing people that free is good, it's here. Final word has to go to Soren Aabye Kierkegaard "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." I'm climbing off my soapbox now. Sorry again if this is waffle to you all. Best Regards Earl Message: 14 > Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 14:34:50 -0700 (PDT) > From: David Freeman <david_freeman(a)rocketmail.com> > Reply-To: David_freeman(a)rocketmail.com > To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > Subject: [Alug] A dark day for freedom > > All, > > For those of you who read slashdot will have seen the reference to the > following article. > > http://europa.eu.int/comm/internal_market/en/intprop/intprop/news/copyri ght.htm#4 > > the way I understand this is that it is now illegal to circumvent copy > protection on media, such as the norwegain student(jon johassan I > think) did last year to the DVD spec. This is a very dark day if I have > understood this right. The big companies are the winners in this case > and it posses a massive threat to linux, under this act, it could be > illegal for us to use DeCSS, and it certainly will be when the DVD > replacement arives. This leaves me with a question, what can we do > about it? our rights are steadily being eroded, the RIP bill etc... yet > these bills are being snuck in very quietly. Can anyone suggest a > course of action to prevent this from continueing? > > Thanks > > D > > __________________________________________________

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Re: [Alug] Unix File sharing
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 12 Apr '01

12 Apr '01

>If you are using any win98 (or MS machines that use encrypted password >authentication), be sure to read the documents that come with samba, I >got caught out by this 'feature' a few months ago ;).. Check out all the help I got on it last month from the alug in the archives - lots of troubleshooting there. (Not that I got it working,but that doesn't mean anything!!!). Good weekend, all, I'm off to the Lakes to see the folks. Jenny.

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Re: [Alug] networking probs
by MJ Ray 12 Apr '01

12 Apr '01

Jenny_Hopkins(a)toby-churchill.com writes: > I've edited it to show "eth0" in place of dummy0 now. Can I do it like > that? (I'll find out!) That's a good start, I think. > I think I can officially say I am bewildered now. Don't worry. You've just not got your eth0 driver around just yet. Getting warmer, though. > Using ifconfig to try and bring up eth0 shows > eth0: unknown interface: No such device > ne.c: No NE*000 card found at i/o = 0x300 > Anyone? OK, the io address in that ne options line is wrong, then. At least, the card doesn't answer to 0x300. You can either try to find out what it should be (Did it work in the old OS? Did you note its settings down?), or play around a bit until it works. 0x280, 290, 2a0, 2b0, ... ... 0x330. -- MJR

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