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CAMRA Winter Ale Selection!
by James 25 Jan '02

25 Jan '02

NOT a Linux Topic, but I enjoyed this - so pass on by if you are not a seeker after quality beer, suitably located. A bit late to organize our own "beer hike" I suppose... RE: 8th St.Neots Winter Ale Festival 24th-26th January (In progress) Probably the last "quiet" night, tonight... LOCATION: St.Neots Football Club ( The link road "via low bridge" roundabout exit from the A428 westbound to Bedford ) A most relaxing evening sampling a variety of "Winter Warmer" CAMRA selected Beers. Unlike the bigger CAMRA festivals, this one in my town is well hidden, and off the beaten track... Just a couple of tables in a small annex beside the football club bar, also nearly empty (Thursday Night). The theme is a regional beer selection. Hopefully it will be as quiet tonight (Friday) 7pm - 11pm Saturday ( 6pm - 12pm ) is likely to be more of the usual crush. I'll be there again, because the Tally-Ho (ABV 6.8% OG 1075) was still settling last night. If no-one can rustle up transport, with a non-drinking driver, there is a bus service. Last bus back to Cambridge 2207 from the Centre of town ( allow 30mins to walk to nearest stop from the club ) Fare from Cambridge is just over 4 pounds. Entry to non CAMRA members 2-50 AFAIR. --James 130/X30 Bus Timetable (A small PDF file) can be retrieved/viewed from: http://www.camcnty.gov.uk/sub/eandt/highways/bustimes/n.htm

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Transplanting X windows
by Ted.Harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 25 Jan '02

25 Jan '02

Hi Folks, How to transplant X windows from machine to machine? Suppose I have a LAN of machines, each running various apps in different X windows and variously displaying on the local or on other machines (i.e. users have been logging in from various machines to various other machines). Now: a user, who has an app which is running on machine A and displaying on machine B, goes to machine C and wants to transplant the X window[s] from machine B so as to display on machine C, *without stopping and restarting the app on A*. The program 'xlsclients' can be used to find out the information which identifies X windows on the various machines. I guess that the X display an app appears on is "stored" in the running app itself (either picked up from the $DISPLAY for the session or set by "-display ... "), so that changing this involves sending some message to the app itself rather than to any X server. However, I don't have any idea how to send such a message (e.g. to a particular 'xterm' running on A and displaying on B, which is now wanted to display on C). Any ideas? Perhaps, as well as telling the app on A to change display to C, it may be necessary to tell the X server on B that it should stop trying to display the app; or maybe that may fall out automatically. (I guess process ownership issues don't pose a problem, since the user can log in to A or B from C as the user who owns the instance of the app). Just to make it clear: Initially, the user started the app on A while logged in from B. The user is now at C, and wants access to the app as if [s]he had logged in from C in the first place. Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 167 1972 Date: 24-Jan-02 Time: 08:42:05 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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More on the Athlon/AGP Paging "Bug"
by James 25 Jan '02

25 Jan '02

Seen on Slashdot: A link to a more detailed update on the Athlon / AGP memory paging "bug" first reported in depth by gentoo Other Mobo hardware issues - such as support chipset design may be factors in folk experiencing AGP card difficulties... See: http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Linux/35/175/7626960/ --James

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Re: [Alug] Transplanting X windows
by MJ Ray 24 Jan '02

24 Jan '02

Just a quick though. Ted Harding: > However, this does depend on the existence of a mechanism for sending such > a message. I'm pretty sure there's no such thing in X generally, though I > can see how one might program a particular app to respond in this way if > it received a certain interrupt. Surely it would need to be done via the X events? If it's not there, it's not there... possibly sending some sort of EWMH message could do it, but then you rely on client support again and many clients can't even follow the existing specs properly. > Another marvellous utility which I /have/ used is "xmx" ("X multiplexer"), > though it's a good while since I picked it up -- I don't know whether it's > still around, still less whether it has moved on. Now, the problem with VNC is that your display of that machine's windows are in a desktop window entirely and you can't really mix them in with your own. If you can run xmx on a disconnectable display, like an xvnc server or an Xvfb one, then you could possibly do what you're asking? This depends on xmx still existing, allowing you to connect and disconnect guests while it's running, and you probably still have the colour depth to worry about. -- MJR

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XMX
by Ted.Harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 24 Jan '02

24 Jan '02

Folllowing up on xmx. It seems it has moved on. Look at http://www.cs.brown.edu/software/xmx/ Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 167 1972 Date: 24-Jan-02 Time: 19:45:49 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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lifts from Norwich-Sorry!
by Ricardo Campos 24 Jan '02

24 Jan '02

Sorry to those I (provisionally) offered lifts to the next meet to, my moving house is well behind schedule (not anything to do with loading a new distro-honest guv) and I shan't be able to make it on sunday. :'( Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] Next Meeting - Jan 27?
by Ricardo Campos 24 Jan '02

24 Jan '02

> > Bah, you can cycle to Newton Flotman fairly easily, IIRC. ;-) > I may be moving house that weekend, but if all goes well, I'll be able to go and there'll be space for 3 (or 4) in my car. I'll be coming through the centre of Norwich if anyone wants a lift. Ricardo _______________________________________________ "There are several codes, and I know several of them." -Mr. Precise. http://www.rscampos.net Check my online diary out: http://www.rscampos.net/blog.html -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] RedHat7.2
by MJ Ray 24 Jan '02

24 Jan '02

Mike: > Apart from open source software which for projects of any size is always > developed (and therefore sourceable) by a number of people distributed > around the world. This statement is only true about "open source software" if you mean that in the OSI sense, in which case it is somewhat clearer to say "Free Software". Once explained (ie free as in freedom, not necessarily as in price), that doesn't really have the double meaning that curses the other term. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] RedHat7.2
by Lincoln, Michael C 24 Jan '02

24 Jan '02

On Wed, 2002-01-23 at 17:39, Neill Newman wrote: > > > MJ Ray wrote: > > > > Ricardo: snip > > It's still a single source supplier and they want your data for something, > > I'm sure. > > All software, by default, is single sourced, so what's that got to do > with anything ? Apart from open source software which for projects of any size is always developed (and therefore sourceable) by a number of people distributed around the world. Mike

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Re: clug CLUG >< ALUG Transport/RH7.2 Updates
by MJ Ray 24 Jan '02

24 Jan '02

James: > Anyone coming in (by car) with the intention of moving on to > ALUG ( and coming back to Cambridge afterwards?) And able to offer > lift share space. There is myself, Doug and possibly Johnathon > looking for a lift share on Sunday. My little Fiat will be doing KL -> A10 -> noon CLUG -> 2pm ALUG 6pm -> return, assuming all is well. I could fit three in, but it would be more comfortable if I don't have to. So, we have three people and three seats... any advances? -- MJR

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