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Re: OT: Standard of IT in schools across the country
by Ben Norcutt 28 Oct '03

28 Oct '03

>Such bravery, putting XP net-facing in such numbers. Of course they keep >all the machines patched... Nobody said anything about the machines being Internet facing. All connections from Schools to the Internet by the links provided by Norfolk LEA are one big VPN. This then goes into a server farm of proxies at baynard house provided by BT then through the BT networks to the outside world. Information on standards etc... for Schools can be found on the DFES website. I know personally that as a School our budget isn't big enough to include upgrading and replacing machines this money has come from the Government via NGFL funding. Cheers, Ben Norcutt

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Announce digest, Vol 2 #21 - 1 msg
by announce-request＠lists.alug.org.uk 28 Oct '03

28 Oct '03

Send Announce mailing list submissions to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to announce-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk You can reach the person managing the list at announce-admin(a)lists.alug.org.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Announce digest..." --------------.--------------------------------------------.------------ alug-announce | Newsletter of the Anglian Linux User Group | Weekly(ish) --------------'--------------------------------------------'------------ ** Please send articles for this letter to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk ** *** Please send replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk, not announce... *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Today's Topics: 1. LOCAL: GNU/Linux/ALUG/Ely Wed 29 Oct (MJ Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: MJ Ray <mjr(a)dsl.pipex.com> To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:36:31 +0000 Subject: [Alug Announce]LOCAL: GNU/Linux/ALUG/Ely Wed 29 Oct [1]ALUG [2]Map Meeting 2003.15: Ely: Fountain 29 October 2003 Plan for the meeting We'll meet at [3]the Fountain at 1900. Someone will put a penguin on the table, ALUGgers will gather round and chat. Because we're in a pub, please only bring portable equipment like laptops and handhelds. People at the meeting So far, Adam, Kirsty, Rob and Daniel look fairly certain to be there. If you will be coming to this meeting, please try to say so on the mailing list, so we can be prepared for the numbers! Use [4]the meeting transport page if you can share your journey. Equipment Equipment is brought at your own risk. We strongly suggest that you tag or label your kit. No known thefts have occurred at our meetings, but there is ample scope for going home with the wrong cables, etc. Discussion If you want to discuss this meeting, please [5]use the mailing list. [6]Back to the meetings index * Destinations 1. [7]Join ALUG 2. [8]FAQ 3. [9]Meetings * Local LUGs 1. [10]Peterborough 2. [11]Cambridge * Recent Donors 1. [12]PHP4Hosting 2. [13]Black Cat Networks 3. [14]Martyn Drake 4. [15]Turo Technology LLP 5. [16]O'Reilly UK You may think I'm a dreamer... but I'm not the only one [17]UK LUGs References 1. http://www.alug.org.uk/ 2. http://www.alug.org.uk/ 3. http://www.britishpubguide.com/cgi-bin/pub.cgi?results:Cambridgeshire:1147 4. http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/?MeetingTransport 5. http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main 6. http://www.alug.org.uk/meetings/2003/ 7. http://www.alug.org.uk/background/contacts.html 8. http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/?AlugFaq 9. http://www.alug.org.uk/meetings/2003/ 10. http://www.peterboro.lug.org.uk/ 11. http://www.cambridge-lug.org/ 12. http://www.php4hosting.co.uk/ 13. http://www.blackcatnetworks.co.uk/ 14. http://www.drake.org.uk/ 15. http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ 16. http://www.oreilly.co.uk/ 17. http://www.lug.org.uk/ --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce End of Announce Digest

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[Alug]Gnoppix
by Keith Watson 27 Oct '03

27 Oct '03

Has anyone else seen and tried Gnoppix (www.gnoppix.org)? Gnoppix is a Knoppix clone that uses Gnome 2+ rather than KDE. Keith

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[Alug]Suse 8.1 Live Eval CD problem
by Syd Hancock 27 Oct '03

27 Oct '03

This is a question I've been meaning to ask for a while. When I first got my T23 Think[ad a couple of months ago I tried a Suse 8.1 Live Evaluation disk in it and what happened when it went past the opening screen was really scary. The machine totally locked up with a blank screen, the green leds were flashing, the fan came on and the hot air was really hot and smelled of hot electronics... the thing was totally locked up and not even the power button would do anything. I really thought it was totally fried (lm_sensors was the first thing I thought of) but thankfully after a few minutes the fan stopped and I was able to power it up again and take the CD out. Since then I have installed mandrake 9.1 with no problems (except the minor glitch of getting a video driver) and has run perfectly ever since. Knoppix no probelms either (and it has the correct video driver too). But it has put me right off Suse which I would actully like to try out. Has anyone else seen this and/or does anyone have any comments? Syd

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[Alug]Suse Problems
by Nick Daniels 27 Oct '03

27 Oct '03

HI Suse 8.0, 8.1, 8.2, total system freeze only when connected to internet, and running KDE The freeze occurs about once in fifteen times connected to internet num lock light flashes, caps lock flashes, I can run Gnome forever and the system never locks I have a normal dial up connection Mandrake O.K , i have a normal dial up connnection and external modem System xp1600 , 768Mb ram, hard disc IBM deskstar Regards Nick Daniels

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RE: Re[2]: [Alug]Problem 2 - Unkillable processes
by Jenny Hopkins 27 Oct '03

27 Oct '03

> Stuart Clark <stuart.clark(a)Jahingo.com> wrote: > > > Barry Samuels wrote: > > > > > > Just recently I have started an application that then freezes. It > > > shows in the list of processes viewed using something like KDE > > > System Guard or Top but cannot be killed by using either of the > > > above or 'kill' from the command line. > > > > > > > Have you tried kill -9 <pid> ? > > No but I did try from KDE System Guard using KILL rather than > TERM and that didn't work so I imagine that kill -9 <pid> > wouldn't work either but I will try it if (when?) it happens again. > There is also "kill -s KILL <pid>" which sometimes works if kill doesn't. Jen

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[Alug]Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 27 Oct '03

27 Oct '03

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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[Alug]Problem 2 - Unkillable processes
by bsamuels＠beenthere-donethat.org.uk 27 Oct '03

27 Oct '03

Just recently I have started an application that then freezes. It shows in the list of processes viewed using something like KDE System Guard or Top but cannot be killed by using either of the above or 'kill' from the command line. Is there any way of killing these processes? The only way that I have found is to reboot which seems a bit drastic. Barry Samuels http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk The Unofficial Guide to Great Britain

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Re: [Alug]Problem 2 - Unkillable processes
by Stuart Clark 26 Oct '03

26 Oct '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Barry Samuels wrote: > > Just recently I have started an application that then freezes. It > shows in the list of processes viewed using something like KDE System > Guard or Top but cannot be killed by using either of the above or > 'kill' from the command line. > Have you tried kill -9 <pid> ? - -- Stuart Clark mailto:stuart.clark@Jahingo.com http://www.Jahingo.com/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/m9wM8fzjqiF3TCIRApmtAJ0RDCFEdbpH0KcThXx7KFnDejAc2wCdHEtL n9lQ296Q3dLpJkbIwSQG/5Y= =zAVW -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [Alug]Problem 1 - Snort and local LAN
by Stuart Clark 26 Oct '03

26 Oct '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Barry Samuels wrote: > > Debian has a DEBIAN_SNORT_HOME_NET variable which should be set to > 192.168.n.n/nn. What do I need to set it to to disregard anything > coming from 19.168.anything? > If that is how it is expecting it use '192.168.0.0/16' The simplest netmasks to remember are 8, 16, 24 & 32 which correspond to 192.x.x.x, 192.168.x.x, 192.168.0.x and 192.168.0.1 (ie one of the 4 'dotted quads' more each time until a 32 which is a single ip address) - -- Stuart Clark mailto:stuart.clark@Jahingo.com http://www.Jahingo.com/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/m9vp8fzjqiF3TCIRAuy8AJ9U3tw5R1+QIcCMpKO0wuDDZBhgBwCeIJBh eVQW415oDuJ//GyuejMwEc0= =OeEH -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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