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[Alug]Reminder: Norwich evening meeting this week.
by Syd Hancock 13 Oct '03

13 Oct '03

Postponed Norwich monthly evening social meet this thursday 16th October, 8pm onwards at the Forum coffee bar. See website Meetings page for more info or email. Syd

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[Alug]Announce digest, Vol 2 #17 - 1 msg
by announce-request＠lists.alug.org.uk 13 Oct '03

13 Oct '03

Send Announce mailing list submissions to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to announce-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk You can reach the person managing the list at announce-admin(a)lists.alug.org.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Announce digest..." --------------.--------------------------------------------.------------ alug-announce | Newsletter of the Anglian Linux User Group | Weekly(ish) --------------'--------------------------------------------'------------ ** Please send articles for this letter to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk ** *** Please send replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk, not announce... *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Today's Topics: 1. LOCAL: GNU/Linux/ALUG/Norwich Thu 16 Oct (MJ Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:57:02 +0100 Subject: [Alug Announce]LOCAL: GNU/Linux/ALUG/Norwich Thu 16 Oct [1]ALUG [2]Map Meeting 2003.14: Norwich: The Forum bar 16 October 2003 Plan for the meeting Roughly, as follows: We will meet up from 8pm onwards for an informal evening get-together for anyone interested in GNU/Linux. This meeting is a week later than the regular date of 'second thursday' because of a clash with Linux Expo. How to get there For directions, please see [3]the venue information page. Use [4]the meeting transport page if you want to share your journey. People at the meeting If you will be coming to this meeting, please try to say so on the mailing list, so we can be prepared for the numbers! Equipment Equipment is brought at your own risk. NB: This venue is not suitable for anything more than portable equipment (laptops, palmtops, etc). As always, we strongly suggest that you tag or label your kit. No known thefts have occurred at our meetings, but there is ample scope for going home with the wrong cables, etc. Discussion If you want to discuss this meeting, please [5]use the mailing list. [6]Back to the meetings index * Destinations 1. [7]Join ALUG 2. [8]FAQ 3. [9]Meetings * Local LUGs 1. [10]Peterborough 2. [11]Cambridge * Recent Donors 1. [12]PHP4Hosting 2. [13]Black Cat Networks 3. [14]Martyn Drake 4. [15]Turo Technology LLP 5. [16]O'Reilly UK You may think I'm a dreamer... but I'm not the only one [17]UK LUGs References 1. http://www.alug.org.uk/ 2. http://www.alug.org.uk/ 3. http://www.alug.org.uk/venues/forum.html 4. http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/?MeetingTransport 5. http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main 6. http://www.alug.org.uk/meetings/ 7. http://www.alug.org.uk/background/contacts.html 8. http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/?AlugFaq 9. http://www.alug.org.uk/meetings/2003/ 10. http://www.peterboro.lug.org.uk/ 11. http://www.cambridge-lug.org/ 12. http://www.php4hosting.co.uk/ 13. http://www.blackcatnetworks.co.uk/ 14. http://www.drake.org.uk/ 15. http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ 16. http://www.oreilly.co.uk/ 17. http://www.lug.org.uk/ --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce End of Announce Digest

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[Alug]Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 13 Oct '03

13 Oct '03

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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[Alug]Development Web Server Recommendation?
by kpwatson＠pop3.ukfsn.org 11 Oct '03

11 Oct '03

I'm about to set up a web server on my home system so I can do some server side web development without having to be connected to the internet (I'm a poor dial-up only user ;o) ). Its a Debian Woody system. Haven't decided on what server side tools to use yet, initially it will be very basic. Apache looks good but is it overkill in this situation? Recommendations on suitable web server software please? Keith

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[Alug]Teletext
by kpwatson＠pop3.ukfsn.org 11 Oct '03

11 Oct '03

Anyone know anything about teletext systems? Have a friend who runs a small hotel/boarding house in the west country. He has a TV in each room the can display teletext pages and they run off a common aerial feed (analogue not digital). We were kicking around the idea of him setting up his own set of teletext pages and feeding in to this set up. I've done a quick Google but it's either people trying to sell teletext services or hardware. Can't seem to find much basic info. Anyone know of some good reference sites? Anyone know what sort of software/hardware would be required (Linux based if possible)? Keith

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[Alug]Mandrake installation
by Kendall, Rob 10 Oct '03

10 Oct '03

Hi all, firstly, thanks to Keith Watson for supplying me with the mandrake cds. secondly....aaaargh!!! first install went pretty smoothly....put gnome on as GUI...went into it, all seemed ok. display resolution was set to 800x600, tried to find where to change it, but couldn't. then the gui crashed....rebooted machine, mandrake loaded back up, then halted saying that xfree86 not installed on system. wiped HDD, reinstalled mandrake....everything went ok up to 1 min from end of install, got error 'error on load of module xfree86, do you want to continue' have tried with both a yes, and no, xfree will not load, no matter what i do!!! everything else seem to load, just not xfree.....mandrake runs the command line seemingly ok. can i put xfree on separately, and if so how? much appreciated rob kendall ******************************************************************************************** " This message contains information that may be privileged or confidential and is the property of the Cap Gemini Ernst & Young Group. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or use this message or any part thereof. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this message ". ********************************************************************************************

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Re: [Alug]Postfix To Hotmail Problems
by Matt Parker 10 Oct '03

10 Oct '03

On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 09:48, Charles Blundell wrote: > on Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 11:35:02PM +0100, Matt Parker wrote: > > I got all the way through, but only on mx4.hotmail.com. No joy on mx1. > > Is there anyway I can force postfix to use mx4 or is it just pot-luck > > which server I get? > > make sure you have: > > transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport > > in /etc/postfix/main.cf > then add to /etc/postfix/transport: > > hotmail.com smtp:[mx4.hotmail.com] > > then run: > # postmap /etc/postfix/transport > # postfix check > # postfix reload > > (though you would be better off if you could rely on the mx records > for hotmail.com...) > > fwiw, mx1.hotmail.com times out on connect: postfix should be trying > other mx's. but i see that hotmail lists them all at the same > preference. odd. > That worked to connect to mx4 but unfortunately I'm still getting the same message from hotmail:- Sep 27 11:35:17 ben postfix/smtp[16249]: 065813B4E0: to=<cowboy_bob500(a)hotmail.com>, relay=mx4.hotmail.com[65.54.254.151], delay=41, status=deferred (lost connection with mx4.hotmail.com[65.54.254.151] while sending MAIL FROM) Don't know why it works manually via telnet but postfix gets cut off. Grrr. Damn Microsoft... Thanks for the help, Matt

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[Alug]CD Players
by Nick Daniels 10 Oct '03

10 Oct '03

Hi Has anybody had any trouble with the Cdplayers on Suse 8.2, Two computers, boards Jetway 830ch, Gigabyte GA7A, both Xp1800 Xmms O. K on MP3s, Line in , Mic in, O.K. Start music plays and Kmix adjusted. C.D. is shown as playing but no sound output Regards Nick

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[Alug]O'Reilly Book Reviews
by kpwatson＠pop3.ukfsn.org 07 Oct '03

07 Oct '03

Are there any guidelines for the format of book reviews? and, if not, would some be helpful? A quick Google throws up loads of sites, even an O'Reilly one <http://ug.oreilly.com/bookreviews.html>. Once we've written a review what's the next step? Keith

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Re: [Alug]automount with NFS
by Steve Fosdick 07 Oct '03

07 Oct '03

On 2003.10.06 23:13, Steve Fosdick wrote: On 2003.10.06 22:30, MJ Ray wrote: > One tip: be very careful with NFS mount options. If a server hangs > on you, then you can't just kill the thing and restart like you can > with the userland amd. You could lose the whole autofs system for > the duration unless you have timeouts and interruptable options. Any > process trying to touch it will block hard, leading to amusingly high > load averages (I think around 120 was my highest before fixing > it...). Futhermore if you enable use the intr option so any blocked processes can be killed, then killing one of them can cause a kernel oops on the client. Specifically, imagine you have a process that has a file open but has removed the directory entry for that file. The normal way unix handles this is that the file will continue to exist anonymously until the last process closed it whereupon the file is deleted and the space recovered. On NFS, when the last directory entry to an open file is deleted the file actually gets renamed to a hidden filename. So, you have this process running and it's holding the file open but the NFS server has gone away and you want to unmount the filesystem so you kill the process at which point the kernel panics because it can't delete the hidden file on the NFS server.

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