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RE: [Alug]suse 8.1 promo revisited
by Adam Bower 30 Apr '03

30 Apr '03

> From: Syd Hancock [mailto:syd@toufol.com] > I'm confused. Can someone clarify the situation here. Some people > seemed to object strongly to the suse8.1 CD set from a cover disk > being offered on the grounds that is is against their licence. > That's fair enough. On the other hand it clearly a promo offer so > presumably suse are not too concerned if it may gain users - also > fair enough. If people want a copy they are probably better off buying the magazine than sorting out CDs, both in license terms and also cost? Also the full SuSE box set contains lots of CDs, I am guessing that they are not all included with this magazine so SuSE are offering part of their product to try and attract new users? > My question is - is it acceptable to the members of the list for me > to (re)offer these CDs? It is not acceptable for you to offer the CDs on this list if it is against the SuSE license, If you would be breaking the terms of that license you would also be breaking the law. The line I take on this kind of thing is to recommend free alternatives such as Debian which do not come with these "problems", and BTW if people are interested I now have the Woody update CD available and sarge images for the first 3 CDs. Thanks Adam

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RE: [Alug]suse 8.1 promo revisited
by Adam Bower 29 Apr '03

29 Apr '03

> From: jamie.french(a)talk21.com [mailto:jamie.french@talk21.com] > Please excuse my ignorance, but I don't understand how it is > different passing the CDs around for people to install rather > than copy? I appreciate that this is what SuSe MAY stipulate, > but just sounds odd to me. Because if you install a copy and like it and then want to install extra packages you either have to go and borrow the disks again or spend money on the nice shiny box set (or in this case go and buy the magazine). Similar to how you borrow a book but don't copy it. Adam

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Re: [Alug]suse 8.1 promo revisited
by jamie.french＠talk21.com 29 Apr '03

29 Apr '03

Please excuse my ignorance, but I don't understand how it is different passing the CDs around for people to install rather than copy? I appreciate that this is what SuSe MAY stipulate, but just sounds odd to me. Take Care, Jamie >No. The objection was to copies being offered, as that was thought to >beagainst their licence. The original CDs from the cover disc should >befine to pass around. Best Regards, Jamie French -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com

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[Alug]suse 8.1 promo revisited
by Syd Hancock 29 Apr '03

29 Apr '03

I'm confused. Can someone clarify the situation here. Some people seemed to object strongly to the suse8.1 CD set from a cover disk being offered on the grounds that is is against their licence. That's fair enough. On the other hand it clearly a promo offer so presumably suse are not too concerned if it may gain users - also fair enough. My question is - is it acceptable to the members of the list for me to (re)offer these CDs? Syd

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[Alug]rtl8139 aha moment
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 29 Apr '03

29 Apr '03

Re. my astonishment at the non-workingness of this computer and the rtl8139 thing; I've answered my own question: This is a winputer. http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0301.2/0452.html Lovely. I'm going home.... Jenny

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Re: [Alug]rtl8139
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 29 Apr '03

29 Apr '03

MJR wrote: >Aren't those drivers built into the bf2.4 kernel? >http://www.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/current/bf2.4/k… >suggests so. Steve wrote: >No, if the driver is built-in to the kernel, as Mark suggests, you won't see a separate file for it - it will be >part of /vmlinuz. Yes, sorry - I see it in my own config now. I was looking for it as a module in modconf. Sorry - a bit hazy on things like this. Two steps forward and one back.... What it is, is I have a new motherboard A7N266-VM which has onboard video (NVIDIA 220D North Bridge) and ethernet (Realtek 8201 PHY controller). The complete output of lspci shows everything to be nvidia corporation "unknown device", anyways I found a thread on the internet that says the ethernet for this motherboard will work with rtl8139. Jen

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Fw: Re: [Alug]Debian Install
by Steve Fosdick 28 Apr '03

28 Apr '03

On Sun, 27 Apr 2003 18:30:03 +0100 Ian Bell <ian(a)redtommo.com> wrote: > Now that one is solved it is time to find out why KDE does not work. > X windows gives a fatal server error 4. What does that indicate? When does this error occur? Is it before login, i.e. is it when you are expecting a graphical login screen like kdm or gdm to appear, or is it after you have logged in? X writes a log file which may help diagnose this - where this gets written may depend on which login manager you are using. For gdm2 I have the log file /var/log/XFree86.0.log. I have also seen a log called gdm:0.log or some such similar thing. Steve.

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RE: [Alug]rtl8139
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 28 Apr '03

28 Apr '03

Jonathan Dye wrote: >The driver should be 8139too. That's what I'm using currently with 3.0 and >I installed from the bf2.4 disks. Is that under drivers/net? I can't see 8139too or any Realtek stuff. Thanks, Jenny

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[Alug]rtl8139
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 28 Apr '03

28 Apr '03

Hi List, Great meeting yesterday, ta for help all. Now, why can't I find any Realtek drivers in the kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4 that comes with the woody 3.0 disk? Could I be looking in the wrong place, or aren't there any? I need one to get a network connection going (onboard Realtex 8201 PHY controller) in order to get a different kernel :-) Thanks Jen

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Re: [Alug]rtl8139
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 28 Apr '03

28 Apr '03

Laurie wrote: >8139too is correct. It *is* compiled either in the kernel or as a module >isn't it? I have a Stupid Moment Feeling coming over me.... Now, one of my problems here is that I can never see where the source tree installs to when I do a fresh install from disk - I've only ever upgraded kernels by installing a new one and then working with that. Anyway, escape from further embarrassment by a timely dentists visit...:-) Will look afresh in the morning. Ta, Jen

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