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For sale, sending or skipping
by MJ Ray 30 Jan '04

30 Jan '04

The following items are surplus to requirements. They are available for a small price or postage (any profit on postage will be donated to the Association For Free Software). More details on request. - Phone/modem line sharer, rings while online : 10 pounds - Printer, Canon BJ-1000, colour or mono, 720dpi IIRC, sheet feeder : 15 pounds - Speakers, unbranded, with PSU : 5 pounds - Trackball, Radioshack, serial 3-button : 10 pounds - Cables, SCSI and IDE, various : POSTAGE - Case, Microland, tower, 150W PSU, 2 drive bays and 1 caddy : POSTAGE - Covers, Belkin USB devices, various colours : POSTAGE - Heatsinks, 2 genuine Athlon MP, 1 K6/2, unused but unboxed : POSTAGE - Monitor, 12" Samtron SC-428VSL(E), can do >800x600 IIRC : COLLECT (K.Lynn) - Mouse, Logitech, serial 3-button, very robust : POSTAGE - Mouse mats, 1 black plastic and 1 grey cloth top : POSTAGE - Mouse, unbranded, PS2 5-button : POSTAGE - Printer, Canon BJ-10e, battery or mains, 360dpi IIRC : POSTAGE - Telephone, can do indirect access, 9 memories : POSTAGE - Telephone number bank, Casio DC-200, 50 number memory, antique? ;) : POSTAGE Any items still here in a month get skipped or given to charity, as appropriate. Maybe much sooner. -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. Please http://remember.to/edit_messages on lists to be sure I read http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ gopher://g.towers.org.uk/ slef(a)jabber.at Creative copyleft computing services via http://www.ttllp.co.uk/

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Webmail/IMAP etc.
by Chris Green 30 Jan '04

30 Jan '04

Well I'm still exploring my options. Neomail seems to be a quite reasonable Webmail program which will read one's mail from a local mail spool. I hav installed it and it's nearly working but I seem to have an issue with the perl installation at the moment. I'm waiting for my subscription to the Neomail list to become live to ask a question about it. I'm also playing on my home system. I now remember why I have previously steered away from using IMAP4, the problem is that each MUA seems to have its own view of how IMAP4 should work such that it's well nigh impossible to use an IMAP4 server with different MUAs. It turns out that the remote system where I read my mail by ssh'ing in with mutt runs an IMAP4 server, it looks like it's the same one as I have on my Slackware 9.1 system at home. I can't work out what IMAP4 server it is as the manual page doesn't tell you. I got my home one working just now by simply uncommenting the line in /etc/inetd.conf and kicking inet. Using mutt I can access all my mail perfectly, down through quite a deep hierarchy of folders, currently maildirs. This works the same from localhost and the remote system. Mozilla mail fails miserably to access the same mail, it allows me to login to the IMAP server and displays the top level folder of the hierarchy and that's it, no mail messages are visible at all. It also creates a non-existent mailbox/folder called inbox Balsa is just disastrous, it does say it's still experimental and that's the way it looks. -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk)

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Norwich thursday evening venues.
by Syd Hancock 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

Two were suggested on sunday. Both are Weatherspoons pubs so have a reasonable selection of beers, no music and good non-smoking areas. The City Gate - corner of Dereham road and the inner ring road. Large pub, tends not to get too full. Plenty of parking nearby. The Glasshouse on Magdelen street. Parking may not be so good but there is some nearby. Has a balcony and garden for the summer. Sounds very pleasant. Does it get packed out? Any comments on these two venues or preferences between them? General rumblings amongst the beer drinkers is that it's time for a change away from the Forum. Not an issue for me but quite happy to move venue to somewhere else that is suitable in the other ways after suitable discussion. Syd

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free wi-fi access this week
by Syd Hancock 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

BT is having a promotion this week, offering free wi-fi access at many hot spots. There are a 14 listed in Norwich alone, including the railway station (but not the library). Details and sign-up here: http://www.wirelessbroadbandweek.com/ Syd

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Why are do so many WebMail apps. use IMAP?
by Chris Green 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

I've been pottering about some ideas I have for making my mail systems work better together and one of the areas I've been looking at is WebMail applications. Why is it that so many of them use IMAP as the source of the mail they allow you to access? It seems pointless as the whole idea of IMAP is to provide remote access to your E-Mail. If you have a mail client which can read mail using IMAP then you don't need WebMail at all do you? Apart from anything else WebMail tends to be slower and is an unfamiliar interface. Some E-Mail clients even handle POP3 mailboxes 'remotely' quite successfully. (I think it's either xfmail or xcmail that does this) It would make much more sense if WebMail applications allowed you to access mailboxes that *aren't* normally readable remotely. I suppose that a WebMail application means it's easier to access your mail from somewhere that doesn't have your own MUA but that's about all it does. What I'd find really useful is a WebMail application that will let me read a tree of mbox mailboxes on a remote server. -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk)

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cheap quality wi-fi cards on ebay
by Syd Hancock 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

Apologies to anyone who thinks this not appropriate. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3455233849&category=31… These are Cisco Aironet 340 cards, very good reputation. Well supported in linux: http://www.goonda.org/wireless/aironet/ (I have no connection with the seller BTW) Syd

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Bitmap Terminals
by Tarquin Mills 27 Jan '04

27 Jan '04

Linux can use dumb terminals and X terminals, but can it use any types of bitmap terminal, say with SVGALib producing the output? Are the any sources for cheap, small foot print ARM based single board computers? -- Tarquin Mills bmud (BitMap UNIX Display) Terminal

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Open source SQL decision
by Vasko Tomanov 27 Jan '04

27 Jan '04

I need to make a decision what SQL server to use the requirements are: 1. to have stored procedure 2. to be Open Source 3. To run on Linux and Windows Some suggestions ? Cheers Vasko

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Norwich sunday meeting report (brief)
by Syd Hancock 27 Jan '04

27 Jan '04

Four people turned up. We met. We chatted. We went home. See, I said it was a brief report :-) Brett Parker, Jonathan 'Noodles' McDowell, Ashley Howe and myself, Syd. Not sure why it was such a low turnout - maybe the time of year, maybe because there was no specific theme to attract people, maybe because people in the Norwich area are getting the linux socialising that they want from the evening meetings. And several of the regulars could not attend for various reasons otherwise it would have been quite a reasonable turn-out. We had a good old chat about many things, including MythTV, building a PVR, mini-itx and Shuttle boxes, and I at least found it interesting and informative. We also discussed possible venues for the thursday evening meetings and I will post separately about that. I have provisionally booked the room for three months' time, the last sunday in April (25th). Syd

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Re: [ALUG] Webmail clinet that supports local maildir mailboxes
by Matt Parker 27 Jan '04

27 Jan '04

On Mon, 2004-01-26 at 08:40, Chris Green wrote: > On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 03:59:10PM +0000, Matt Parker wrote: > > On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 13:40, Chris Green wrote: > > > I'm looking for a webmail client that supports reading from a > > > hierarchy of maildir mailboxes on the server where it's installed. > > > > > > I normally read my mail by connecting to the server (using ssh) and > > > running mutt, this will remain my normal way of reading mail but > > > occasionally it's useful to be able to read it using webmail and I'd > > > like to do it using the same maildir hierarchy that I see (and > > > maintain) using mutt. > > > > > > I have found a few possibilities by searching but would appreciate > > > some feedback on whether they are any good, I've found:- > > > > > > NeoMail (appears not to be currently developed) > > > NwebMail > > > oMail-webmail > > > open-Webmail (seems the most likely candidate at the moment) > > > > > > > Personally I use IlohaMail (http://ilohamail.org/) and find it > > excellent. > > > ... but it doesn't work with a local mail spool, only POP3 and IMAP as > far as I can see. So install it on top of qpopper - http://www.eudora.com/qpopper/ - which does read your mail spool. You don't have to open up the POP3 port to your firewall if you're going to connect through localhost from the web mail. Matt -- http://www.mpcontracting.co.uk Experts in Java development and website design

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