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OpenAdvantage
by Ted.Harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 17 Jan '06

17 Jan '06

Hi Fenny Folks, You may be interested to study http://www.openadvantage.org and in particular http://www.openadvantage.org/about/whyfree/view which states: Why are We Free? Advantage West Midlands, the regional development agency have provided significant funding to OpenAdvantage and as a result everything on offer at our Solution Centre is free of charge. The EU is adopting a positive stance in the use of Open Source and the West Midlands is taking the lead for the UK. OpenAdvantage offer a full range of services, from consultancy, to seminars and training to enable all business's and organisations understand more, adopt and gain a business advantage from using Open Source software. EEDA anyone? Best wishes to all, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 17-Jan-06 Time: 12:20:44 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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Any better ways to merge mbox files?
by Chris Green 16 Jan '06

16 Jan '06

I have two hierarchies of mbox mail, one is the 'live' one (called Mail) and the other is the archive (called MailArchive). I want to set up a cron job such that all mail that I save in the Mail hierarchy will also be automatically merged into the MailArchive hierarchy. This then allows me to delete old mail from the Mail hierarchy safe in the knowledge that it's archived. The Mail and MailArchive hierarchies have the same basic filenames and structure so a simple 'sledgehammer' approach is to do the following:- Use 'find' to traverse the Mail hieararchy. For each mbox file run 'formail' on both the Mail and the MailArchive mbox into a temporary file Run 'formail' on the temporary file to remove duplicates and put the result in place of the MailArchive mbox. Can anyone think of a more elegant way of doing this? Actually I think I've thought of one possible improvement, I can avoid that second 'formail' by adding the remove duplicates option to the first 'formail' pass. In fact that would seem to be reasonably efficient now I come to think of it. (... and don't anyone say use Maildir, I have moved to using Maildir several times over the past few years and every time I return to mbox after a few weeks. Maildir just isn't so easy to live with, for me at least) -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) "Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence."

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Introducing myself
by Luzie U. Wingen 16 Jan '06

16 Jan '06

Hello everybody, after meeting some of you last Thursday in the Reindeer I finally come around joining the mailing list. A short introduction why I am interested in Linux: I am using Linux some years now for scientific computing in the biosciences. There is quite a lot useful software around for Linux and doing analyses with help of scripts seems to be a much more sensible thing than doing millions of clicks on a Windows machine ... I have some experiences with Suse (yes, I am from Germany) and debian but now have to work on Redhat or Fedora. There may turn up questions related to that ... Luzie

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RE: [ALUG] DVD Burning
by Keith Watson 16 Jan '06

16 Jan '06

> From: MJ Ray Sent: 13 January 2006 19:52 > > "Keith Watson" <keith.watson(a)kewill.com> > > Has anyone got any comments, warnings, POW, etc. about burning data > > DVDs under Gnu/Linux? > > - growisofs is much simpler than cdrecord; > - libburn looked nice, but I've still not upgraded to it, not > sure whether it does DVDs too; and > - I still don't get asked for DVDs anywhere near as often as for CDs. > > Hope that helps, Had a play with both K3B and growisofs at the weekend, both worked very well and did everything I asked. Interestingly K3B seems to use growisofs as its backend for DVD burning. I must admit as an old time fogey (punch cards, paper tape, etc. etc.) I'm still more comfortable with CLI rather than GUI tools (I'm always a little bit paranoid about what GUI tools are doing behind my back) so I think I'll probably be using growisofs most of the time. Regards, Keith ____________ BEAUTY, n. - The power by which a woman charms a lover and terrifies a husband. - Ambrose Bierce - The Devil's Dictionary

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Brett Parker 16 Jan '06

16 Jan '06

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. Historically, these used to be the only time a lot of us would be about, now the channel has some usual faces that are there most of the time (except at silly o'clock, when we might be sleeping, or on the second thursday of the month, where we might be drinking in the Reindeer), so don't feel limited to visit during this time, come visit us when ever you feel like it! The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include xchat, irssi and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://www.irssi.org/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Items for disposal
by Stuart Bailey 14 Jan '06

14 Jan '06

Hi, After having a clear out, I have a couple of items to dispose of. If they are of any use to anyone (for free) please let me know by Monday, when they will be sent to the recycling centre. 19" CRT monitor - unbranded, but in full working order Boxed set of SuSE 9.1 disks - complete with manuals. Many thanks, Stuart. -- --------------------------------------- Stuart Bailey BSc (hons) CEng CITP MBCS LinuSoft (Proprietor) Linux Specialist (01953) 601294 (07778) 383739 http://www.linusoft.co.uk ----------------------------------------

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RE: [ALUG] apt-get question
by Keith Watson 14 Jan '06

14 Jan '06

On 11/1/2006, "Adam Bower" <adam(a)thebowery.co.uk> wrote: >On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 02:02:07PM -0000, Safe Hammad wrote: > >> > Then... >> > >> > apt-get dist-upgrade (i /think/) > >> I'd go for apt-get dselect-upgrade (rather than dist-upgrade) ... :o) >> Cheers, >> Safe > >ummm, yeah. That's the one... not used it for some time ;) Interestingly neither dselect-upgrade or dist-upgrade would install _all_ the marked packages. Can anyone think why that was? I wondered if it was something to do with package interdependencies. Anyway I reverted to plan A and apt-get to download the package files on a fast connection, moved them to the new box and dpkg to install them. That worked a treat and I've successfully added the same list of packages installed on my old box onto the new one. --- (incidentally at the bottom of the man page for dpkg it says; To make a local copy of the package selection states: dpkg --get-selections >myselections You might transfer this file to another computer, and install it there with: dpkg --set-selections <myselections Note that this will not actually install or remove anything, but just set the selection state on the requested packages. You will need some other application to actually download and install the requested packages. --- dooh! ) Regards, Keith ____________ Do not fear the arising of thoughts - only be concerned lest your awareness of them be tardy. - Zen Saying

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DVD Burning
by Keith Watson 13 Jan '06

13 Jan '06

Has anyone got any comments, warnings, POW, etc. about burning data DVDs under Gnu/Linux? I got a DVD writer recently, specifically to use for backups, but have yet to get it to work properly with GnomeBaker (is there a better app?, perhaps I'd be better using simple CLI commands) although it works fine with Nero under Windows (haven't tried DVD video burning yet and probably won't for some time). Google turned up 'Coasterless DVD Burning' <http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/coasterless_dvd.htm> which I shall be studying but if anyone knows of any other useful resources they'd be welcome. Regards, Keith ____________ CORPORATION, n. - An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility. - Ambrose Bierce - The Devil's Dictionary

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kexec
by rob page 13 Jan '06

13 Jan '06

Firstly cheers for those that were at the reindeer not being overly terrifying, much appreciated! Still can't get over the oddness of Tiger.. but.. i'm sure I'll recover... probably after a few more cups of tea.... anyway... as I was saying last night.... Never reboot again! kexec... switch kernels on the fly! http://www.xmission.com/~ebiederm/files/kexec/README Have fun! Rob. ps: Oh, and I'm sure I agreed to some other stuff... I think posting a video of my p200 booting faster than my athlon-xp... (although its actually a sempron.... it used to be an athlon-xp but that died over summer.... i still think of it as an athlon-xp), right.. more tea.

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rsync failure revisited
by Chris Green 12 Jan '06

12 Jan '06

Well I've been bashing away at this rsync problem I've had and have finally found the cause, if not the cure. I was trying to to a big rsync upload of data from my home Linux box to a remote system, a total of 35Mb or so and the rsync was simply hanging after a fairly short while, usually on big files. It turns out that my router loses sync when doing the upload, it looks like it can't cope when saturated in the upload direction. It's a Zyxel 660H, I've fired off a report to their support people but I'm not sure how much good that's going to do. A workaround for the moment is simply to limit the bandwidth that rsync uses, it has a convenient --bwlimit option to do exactly this. As it's just an overnight backup, making it a bit slower doesn't really matter. I'm testing it with the limit set to 64kb/s at the moment and it seems to be going OK. -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) "Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence."

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