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Navigation in 3d spaces
by Peter Onion 02 Oct '05

02 Oct '05

Has anyone got any good links to information or examples on how to let a user navigate through a 3d space using mouse and keyboard ? Examples of openGL code would be even better :-) Peter

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wiki fun'n'games
by Paul 02 Oct '05

02 Oct '05

Got a small problem dropped in my lap.. Need to import a whole bunch of html pages in to a wiki environment. I've installed kwiki and got it up and running with minimal effort, and now kinda stuck on the most efficient method to import the data. Does anyone have some simple suggestions ? Regards, Paul. -- From the Klingon book of C: Klingon function calls do not have 'parameters' - they have 'arguments' - and they ALWAYS WIN THEM.

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DVD Authoring (one more question)
by Wayne Stallwood 01 Oct '05

01 Oct '05

To save me burning a coaster, do you know if traditional DVD players mind having files or folders sitting outside the usual VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS. Will they just ignore the contents ? I am creating a handout DVD for a vintage car rally I attended a while ago and as well as having a some video footage and DVD photo slideshow I thought it's would be nice to provide a folder on the DVD with the high res master shots for those that want to print them or something.

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Printers
by Bob Dove 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

Hi all, Thanks for the riposte to my Walls End thing. Lon Dun, not sure the Gaels ever came further south than Watford Gap - which is why Lon Dunners don't (normally) wear kilts! I think that they expended their energies beating up the Picts and stayed in the hills chasing Haggis.! Printers for Linux, my Epson R300 prints from OOo OK, I haven't tried scanning with Linux yet as er, I have to use Windoze for my PhotoShop installation. Next time I have to scan, I'll see what happens and let you know - if your query isn't answered afore then. Cheers, BD.

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Eye candy
by Wayne Stallwood 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

I have just discovered 3ddesktop in the Ubuntu apt repositories. It gives a wholesome 3D experience to virtual desktop switching that is not unlike (or in fact if you enable the right options in the config files, exactly like) the fast user switch in OSX Only those with functional hardware 3D need bother to check it out, but I'd just thought I'd share. As well as being a bit of eye candy it actually serves a useful purpose to me. Often I forget which virtual desktop I left one of the many apps I tend to have open and so end up switching through all of them. I know there is a setting somewhere to allow the taskbar in gnome to show all open apps. but with so many open it gets too cluttered. It's hard to describe but with this you get a pretty good idea of what's on all (4 in my case) desktops because they are like panes of glass in that you can see the contents from behind.

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Alug Library
by Wayne Stallwood 28 Sep '05

28 Sep '05

We have had a few days downtime due to Plusnet changing CGI servers and me not having time to move the site over to the new one. However it is now back up. The URL has changed to http://ccgi.digimatic.plus.com/opendb/ I tried to edit the Library booklist on the Alug site to reflect this but I get an error. Warning: fopen(./pages/archive/LibraryBooklist): failed to open stream: Permission denied in /home/alug/web/contrib/lib/db_filesystem.php on line 104 Has there been a change (I didn't pay attention to) due to the Wiki spam we were getting. On a related note I am still looking for a more suitable place for online library to live as Plusnet's CGI and MySQL servers aren't that great...I was talking to somebody off list who was going to sort something out for me, including I think some form of ssh access but I think we both got distracted by real work...sorry I can't remember who that was.

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All in one printers/scanners/copiers/faxes
by Adam Bower 27 Sep '05

27 Sep '05

Hi all, ISTR that we covered this recently but I can't find it in the archives. Anyhow, I'm looking for a printer/copier/scanner/fax machine that works with Linux (well, the printer/scanner bit) but there are so many devices and so many that don't work with Linux that I am banging my head against the brick wall. Does anyone know of a good one? (oh, I guess I have up to 150 quid to spend). Thanks Adam -- jabberid = quinophex(a)jabber.earth.li AFFS || http://www.affs.org.uk/ || Not a filesystem

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Gnome, thin theme, and firefox
by Ted.Harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 26 Sep '05

26 Sep '05

Hi Folks, Can any of you suggest a solution to the following irritation? I'm running Red Hat 9 on a somewhat low-powered laptop, using Gnome. I have changed the Gnome "theme" to "Simple" ("Thin appearance, hign performance") and it does indeed make a noticeable difference to performance. (Thanks, by the way, to a suggestion made many moons ago by Dave Gilbert which I came across while doing some housekeeping of old email). However, it has had one irritating side-effect. I normally use Firefox as browser now, since it is much lighter and snappier than the Mozilla which came with the distribution. But, when I click on "Bookmarks" and the list of bookmarks drops down (black text on grey background), as I track the mouse down the list the bookmark the mouse is over at any moment is "higlighted" (ironic quotes) by being made completely blank (just a white rectangle, no visible text). This was not the case before, using the default Red Hat Gnome theme ("Bluecurve"), where the highlighting simply set a lighter grey background and the text remained visible. Nor does it occur now if I use Mozilla instead of Firefox, since the highlighting sets a blue background instead of the unhighlighted grey, and the black text remains visible. Of course the Mozilla is the one that came with the Red Hat distribution, so may have been customised, while the Firefox is one I installed myself; so there may be some explanation there. I can't find anything in Firefox "Edit -> Preferences" which deals with this issue. Though this does not render Firefox unusuable (you just have to remember to read the text before the mouse comes to it) it does make it more awkward, and is certainly irritating! Any suggestions? Best wishes to all, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 26-Sep-05 Time: 09:23:26 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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NTLworld broadband & contract???
by Ted.Harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 26 Sep '05

26 Sep '05

Hi Folks, A query which some of you may be able to resolve! A friend of mine, whose phone is already on an NTL line, has just had a cable modem installed by NTL for broadband via an NTL cable. The leaves them with the NTL CD awaiting insertion into their computer to initiate the setup and establish the broadband connection. So far so good. However, this comes with a contract (I don't have the full wording avaiable) on the lines of "By using the software you agree to ... " -- all sorts of things, including assigning to NTL (as "IAP") and "its suppliers Motive Communications Inc." the right to obtain information from their computer and make changes to settings on their computer; and furthermore to waive all possible claims against NTL, Motive, *AND*MICROSOFT*, and anyone else that NTL sees fit, relating to practically anything that one might normally expect to be able to claim for, The contract also grants NTL/Motive the right to "send information to your computer" and "upload changes", and enters into a commitment to "accept upgrades". For the most part the scope of these things is completely unspecified and the contract, as worded, seems to be an agreement to leave an open door to NTL and their buddies to extract any kind of information and use it for any kind of purpose, as well as arbitrarily interfering with the computer itself. In couple of places there is explicit mention of "changing internet related software", in particular a thing called "The Motive Client Foundation", and of the user supplying "information such as name (etc.)" [note "etc."]. While one might shrug ones shoulders and say "Well, in practice, all they're doing is ensuring they will be able to keep a decent service running", the broadness of the wording -- while in principle allows the providers to do what they like in the way of extracting information from the computer and using it any way they like -- is disquieting. Does anyone have comments on this? By the way, my friend also has a Linux installation so theoretically could use this instead of the Win98 which the CD is provided for ans which they normally use. Is this likely to prove workable? Presumably the software on the CD encapsulates settings and configurations whose details would need to be known before a Linux box could be set up "by hand" to do the job. And, in any case, it may be that if the "IAP" detects a "non-compliant" system then their servers may simply decline to cooperate. It all seems a bit of a black hole, and I don't myself know enough about what goes on here to give any advice (other than having the same impression that the contract "gives too much away"). Either or both of accounts of reassuring experiences/horror stories will be welcome! With thanks and best wishes to all, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 25-Sep-05 Time: 14:30:45 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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NTLworld broadband & contract???
by Christopher Dawkins 26 Sep '05

26 Sep '05

> From: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> > > A friend of mine, whose phone is already on an NTL line, has just had a > cable modem installed by NTL for broadband via an NTL cable. The leaves > them with the NTL CD awaiting insertion into their computer to initiate > the setup and establish the broadband connection. So far so good. Amazing coincidence. I am facing the problem that my daughter has just moved in with four others to student lodgings in a house with a freshly installed NTL cable modem, which is working well to the single XP machine that has been plugged into it and configured by NTL's CD. I spent a frustrating afternoon trying to connect other machines, including my daughter's FreeBSD box, to it. Having now googled, I am sure I failed because the modem is tied to the MAC address of the first machine to connect. It would presumably be in theory possible to set up ICS on the single working machine for the others to use - better from my POV to set up NAT on the FreeBSD box for the same purpose, with a wireless card to share the connection - but the physical constraints (lodgers not allowed to drill holes and my daughter's room being one floor above the hallway where the connection is) mean the only viable solution will be to upgrade the cable modem to a wireless router. But NTL's website doesn't mention wireless routers. Is there anyone with an NTL cable-connected wireless router? If I buy a wireless router independently, is it easy to connect it to the cable modem in place of the current XP machine? Any recommendations on a suitable wireless device? Can I persuade the cable modem to accept the router's MAC address? Will the router, which presumably expects an ADSL input, be readily configurable to the cable modem's ethernet connection? And what are the chances of me managing this operation by telephone from a hundred miles away? Very many thanks to Paul for his comments and links too: > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/robin.d.h.walker/cmtips/register.html > http://www.chetnet.co.uk/articles/index.php?page=index_v2&id=60&c=14 > Regards, Paul. I have been browsing around them and related links. There are good "manual registration" instructions there, but these are four years old and I think I will still have the MAC address problem. Many assume the cable modem is handing out 192.168.x.y addresses, but the working machine had an address 81.106.210.x/24. I did connect our BSD machine to it though a switch, configured it to an adjacent address and was then upset to find it couldn't ping the XP machine. Or the "defalt gateway". I now realise that the XP machine probably had a default firewall, bother it! And the router was probably not accepting the BSD machine's MAC address. Bother it! Concerning Ted's contract reservations, isn't this sort of thing standard practice? The last time I read the small print on an airline ticket (flights can be very boring) I got the impression that they were under no obligation to fly me anywhere anytime. And NTL are welcome to inspect my BSD boxen as much as they like, they need both a wheel and a root password to get in. -- Christopher Dawkins, Garnetts Corner, Braintree Road, Felsted, Dunmow, Essex CM6 3DS 01371-821076, mobile 07816 821659 cchd(a)felsted.essex.sch.uk

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Brett Parker 26 Sep '05

26 Sep '05

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. Historically, these used to be the only time a lot of us would be about, now the channel has some usual faces that are there most of the time (except at silly o'clock, when we might be sleeping, or on the second thursday of the month, where we might be drinking in the Reindeer), so don't feel limited to visit during this time, come visit us when ever you feel like it! The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include xchat, irssi and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://www.irssi.org/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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text manipulation
by Peter 25 Sep '05

25 Sep '05

Hello everyone. How do you scan a text file in the following way? It will have multiple occurrences of a label in sucessive records. For instance: ****newrecord**** *TTTT lorum ipsem *TTTT feugiat, ullamcorper *RRRR suscipit dolor..... *RRRR fuerat inscipior *SSS nunquam alebit ****endofrecord**** This is how it actually is - the labels are all in caps preceded by *, the start and end of the records are indicated as shown, and each line consists of a field label followed by field content. I am trying to make this into a csv file for import into another database, but am having problems because the number of identical field labels varies from record to record. The starting database appears to have allowed the user to create any number of identically labelled fields. So the number of fields in a record varies from 30 to 50, and there can be 5 -10 duplicate field labels in any record. It is several thousand records in size. The problem is to go through the file, and remove only the second and subsequent occurences of a label, putting the content from the second and subsequent records in the record with the first instance. So in the above example, you apply the process and end up with *TTTT lorum ipsem feugiat, ullamcorper *RRRR suscipit dolor fuerat inscipior *SSS nunquam alebit Once the file is like this, it will be simple to go through and change the carriage returns into tabs, and then do the import. I realise that uniq will find duplicates, and that tr will do replaces, and that you can probably pipe one into the other...or use GAWK? But can't seem to figure out how exactly to make them all do exactly this. My main problem is how to just delete the second and subsequent duplicate labels, instead of either all occurrences of the label, or the whole record with the duplicate label. Any ideas? Regards & thanks in advance to anyone patient enough to help. Peter Berrie

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Help - CM120 C-Media USB Card Reader
by Tim Green 25 Sep '05

25 Sep '05

Hello, I bought an interestingly cheap USB memory card reader last week. It works fine in Windows but I'd rather having it working in Linux. The card reader is based on the C-Media CM120 chip. I say based on - there is only the one chip on the little circuit board. If you think you can help, you can read the output of "lsusb -v" in my journal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/spodlife/90240.html I am running Debian Sarge with kernel v2.6.8, and looking ahead to the more recent kernels there is still no official support. Any ideas? Cheers, Tim.

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When df & du disagree (wildly)...
by James Green 25 Sep '05

25 Sep '05

Hi all, Spot the bleedin' obvious: jmkg@s1c1:/home$ sudo du -csh 64G . 64G total jmkg@s1c1:/home$ sudo df -h /home Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda7 124G 105G 13G 89% /home Tiny wincey little bit of a disagreement going on there. Server is a MySQL box, I've had to keep removing binary logs due to disk space issues and lately this has been a pain. A quick look for other areas of disk usage on this partition showed the discrepency. Any particular ideas on what may be the cause? Only reference on Google was circa 1999 when deleting open files caused this to be demonstrated. df does update when I delete stuff today... Cheers, James

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Autumn ALUG Kit Meet at UEA
by Elisabeth 25 Sep '05

25 Sep '05

There is a note in my phone which says there should be a kit meet at UEA on 23 October, as mooted at the last monthly Moot. If there are no better suggestions or major objections from the assembled masses, I'll book a room next week. Are we going for the record for coffee makers again? And, of course, there will be Cake. And a prize for the most strange, complex, or amusing piece of working kit. And possibly an award for the person who fixes (or breaks) the most things during the afternoon :) e

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Foreign parts
by Bob Dove 24 Sep '05

24 Sep '05

Hi Folks, Greetings from Colonia Claudius. I know that the Wallsend = World's End is a funny - the 'real' World's End is in Chelsea, part of Londinium! I know you all know too that Wallsend is where Hadrian's wall ended! We all learnt at school that Hadrian built the wall to keep the Scots out, the truth of the matter is that there were probably as many gates through the wall as there were watch towers on it. To come through the gate (to trade) you had to pay a tax on your sale goods. Customs and Excise - good idea eh? Julius Caesar 'Veni, Vedi, Veci'? Nah, Veni and Vedi perhaps but he went home with the 'flu! Claudius' army came and found of course already Romanised Celtic tribes and Roman trading posts so the battles were probably not as extensive as the post Roman propaganda would have us believe!!! Alas, the Romans didn't have Linux... Cheers, Bob Dove.

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vnc through a firewall
by Peter 22 Sep '05

22 Sep '05

Does anyone know how to do this? I have a friend in another part of England who regularly wants help with how to do things in OO. So, most of the time I start up OO myself and work in parallel with him and talk him through it. But, he's not very sophisticated and often has trouble following, or even describing very accurately what he is seeing. Today was what led me to think we need another way, when for some mysterious reason printing a journal article he has written, in the approved format of 2 pages per sheet in landscape form, ran into problems. So I find myself saying, you see that icon with the little hand over the printer.... Very time consuming. I have set him up on broadband using a router, so there is a hardware firewall at his end, and of course, NAT. I have put Suse 9.2 in for him, so there is a software firewall as well. I would like to be able, securely, to run VNC and actually demonstrate what he has to do. If we didn't have the firewalls....it would be easy! But with the router, he doesn't have a public IP address - exactly why I made him get one, of course. Oh dear. I am not terribly sophisticated in this stuff, so if anyone can give a simple step by step account, would be very grateful. Regards Peter

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so-long and thanks for all the fish
by Stan Fraser 22 Sep '05

22 Sep '05

I am moving away to the North East (Wallsend) and hope there is an active LUG in the area. Thanks to ALUG I'm now able to understand some of the questions posted, never mind the answers! Best Regards to Everyone Stan

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DVD Authoring
by Wayne Stallwood 21 Sep '05

21 Sep '05

I am looking for a tool chain (or preferably a single application) that can author a DVD from DV cam footage. Specifically- I have video footage on two DV Cams (both have firewire interfaces) that I need to edit into a single video stream. Additionally I may need to edit/substitute the audio track. I am looking for a graphical video editor here because there are sections of the footage I need to remove and cut about. I have a series of Digital camera stills that I would like to compile into a video slide show (possibly with a narrative audio track) I want to create a DVD menu for the above allowing access to either the video or the Slide show. With the option to have the menu skinned with a theme of my choosing Pie in the sky here but, If possible I would like to be able to mess with video effects, I would love to have access to a sepia style effect complete with film scratches/noise. I have a standard Firewire interface on my machine. I am not sure but I guess that any firewire interface is suitable for capturing from a Digital Video camera, do the camera's need some sort of driver or is there a universal capture driver ? If capturing from firewire is a problem then I can dub the video to DVD using a standalone DVD recorder (that has a firewire interface) and then extract the video from the recorded DVD's. Has anyone done this sort of thing on Linux ?

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Success Story - Gphoto2 1 : Windows Nil
by Steve Fosdick 21 Sep '05

21 Sep '05

It's nice to be able to report a success, particularly in what can otherwise be a weak-spot to GNU/Linux, that of interfacing to hardware which is supplied only with Windows (or occasionaly Mac) drivers. Having bought a nice new digital camera, my first attempt at getting pictures off it was on Linux. It took about 30 seconds to install gphoto2 and about a further 30 seconds or so to fetch all the pictures from the camera. Next I was round a friend's and tried to fetch the pictures from the camera to a Windows PC to view them on the screen. After putting in the software disc from the manufacturer the PC spent a good ten minutes running InstallShield for what seemed like an infinite series of related components eventually coming to a halt when one of the instances of InstallShield seemed to reach some kind of deadlock. After a reboot and a second attempt things were no better - in fact it was more than InstallShield that had to be killed with Task Manager. The windows new hardware wizard did detect the camera once and offered a choice of application. After picking the one from the manufacter and finding, not to any great suprise, that it didn't work there wasn't any obvious way of getting back to that choice despite not having clicked the "remember my choice" checkbox. Unplugging the camera and plugging in again, cycling the power on the camera and another reboot of the PC all failed to get back to that dialog. So, after a frustrating half hour in front of the windows PC I took the camera home, fetched the photos with gphoto2 and in less than a minute I'd e-mailed them back to my friend. Steve.

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Brett Parker 19 Sep '05

19 Sep '05

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. Historically, these used to be the only time a lot of us would be about, now the channel has some usual faces that are there most of the time (except at silly o'clock, when we might be sleeping, or on the second thursday of the month, where we might be drinking in the Reindeer), so don't feel limited to visit during this time, come visit us when ever you feel like it! The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include xchat, irssi and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://www.irssi.org/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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TV Card
by Wayne Stallwood 18 Sep '05

18 Sep '05

Can anyone recommend a DVB (freeview) card that works in Linux ? Does such a thing exist ? Also what is the state of Top up TV support on PC based Freeview receivers, is it possible or is Top up TV restricted to set top boxes.

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[ALUG Announce]USERLAND : OPENMUTE FLOSS WORKSHOPS & ARTIST TALK 22-23 SEPTEMBER 2005
by Anthony Iles 17 Sep '05

17 Sep '05

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Hi there, I found your group online and thought you might be interested in this event happening in Norwich next week. Regards Anthony --- OPENMUTE TOUR ANNOUNCE USERLAND : FREE LIBRE OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE WORKING FOR YOU! OpenMute is an online collaborative software tool initiative, and the latest in a cadre of projects by Mute Magazine. OpenMute provides 'free as in beer' web space, tools and services to the non-profit and creative sectors. The OpenMute tour is a varied set of two-day workshops with an aim to familiarise audiences, practitioners and interested parties with the current concepts and practices of Free Open Source Software (or FOSS) as well as practical hands-on help building a website or creating a community project using the OpenMute toolset. The workshops are geared towards teaching people 'you' how to use the OpenMute FOSS software for your cultural or community needs, and these workshops are geared towards a novice to intermediate user of these systems Price : £20 / £10 concessions Date : September 22rd-23rd September Duration : Two Days Times : 10-4pm artist's talk after first day of workshop 4.30pm. Venue : Norwich Arts Centre, St. Benedict's Street, Norwich, NR2 4PG Booking : 01603 660352 All workshop participants please register for your free floss web site http://openmute.org ***22nd SEPTEMBER 4.30PM ARTIST TALK BY HEATH BUNTING OF IRRATIONAL.ORG AND THE CUBE CINEMA*** ALL WELCOME / NO ADMISSION CHARGE Biography. Heath Bunting emerged from the 80's committed to building open/ democratic communication systems and social contexts. He came from the street up, passing through and often revisiting graphity, performance, intervention, pirate radio, fax/ mail art and BBS systems to become an active participant in the explosion of the internet. He has produced many internet projects, some highly recognised and has helped form a strong context for the practice of net.art. Recently, he has moved into the field of genetics proclaiming it to be the next "new media", and is also developing work in the area of physical network performance. 22/09/05 4.30-5.30pm Norwich Arts Centre, St. Benedict's Street, Norwich, NR2 4PG --- END ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Diversity is a killer
by Wayne Stallwood 17 Sep '05

17 Sep '05

Does anybody else remember MS advertising campaigns of old that suggested that the diversity in the Unix and Linux operating systems from different vendors caused interoperability woes and increased the chances of you deploying the wrong solution. I've been googling away but I can't find any linkage. Anyway if this report is to believed http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050910-5298.html It looks like there is going to be no less than 7 different flavours of Windows Vista (longhorn to those that haven't been keeping up) with not only different versions for home and business but different levels within those versions. As someone who provides support to both business and private customers I can see this being a nightmare. To be honest it is hard enough remembering and explaining the differences between XP Pro and XP Home. But in the future I'll have to remember the differences between Professional Edition, Small Business Edition and Enterprise edition for my business customers and Starter, Home basic and Home Premium Edition for my private clients. God forbid that anybody try to use the Business versions in the home or vice versa because it looks like unless they fork out for the Ultimate edition not one of the above has a full feature set. Why can't it be the Apple way where there is a Server version and a Workstation version. Or better still Linux where any version can potentially be Server,Workstation Home or Business depending on what packages you have installed. There must be a way of MS getting their licensing model to work without resorting to so many versions of what essentially is the same product.

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Re: main digest, Vol 3 #668 - 11 msgs
by Jenny Hopkins 15 Sep '05

15 Sep '05

Jan: <snip> > The main reason I suggest Black Cat Networks is that I am very happy > with their service (more so than any other ISP I have used) and so are > other Aluggers who use them and Jonathan (who owns/works for/runs Black > Cat) is in the pub every month for the 2nd Thursday Norwich Alug pub > meet. > > [1] http://www.blackcatnetworks.co.uk/ This sounds attractive to me, I would be quite inclined to go locally with a company that is known to be "Linux aware". It seems to me that the ADSL service they offer might be a bit more than what I was looking for -- e.g. I don't think I need a static IP; my main use of the connection would be shuttling files back and forth between home and work (via scp / rsync etc.), installing Debian packages, and occasional general surfing / email checking etc. But then again, a nicely working connection to the rest of the Internet may well be worth the additional costs (mainly the setup fee)... </snip> Hi Jan, I've got a bt line here, and when exchange was upgraded to adsl I splashed out and got firstly my dsl from blackcatnetworks and secondly a Netgear DG834G router. Any extra money I spent has been worth it time and time again as I have had a reliable broadband connection for a year now, and have had to make no support phone calls. Jenny

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